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From: "Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org>
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Cc: "Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)" <noreply@ruby-lang.org>
Subject: [ruby-core:116414] [Ruby master Feature#20205] Enable `frozen_string_literal` by default
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:14:47 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-106437.20240124171447.7941@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-20205.20240123152642.7941@ruby-lang.org

Issue #20205 has been updated by Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme).


> I think the community pulled through it and I don't seem to hear much about it anymore.

Careful; the community "pulled through" because there was already a lot of accumulated good will, and the 2.7 migration burned through some of that reserve. Yet another migration might result in "not again!" syndrome and the community not pulling through nearly as well. It depends on how annoying the migration is, and the perceived benefit.

I should note that since dynamic string literals are no longer frozen since 3.0, the disruption would be that much smaller.

> - Files with no `# frozen_string_literal` comment are compiled to use `putchilledstring` opcode instead of regular `putstring`.
> - This opcode mark the string with a user flag, when these strings are mutated, a warning is issued.

That's a lot like #16153 so I like it. I would also like to have `# frozen_string_literal: chilled` to enable this behavior on my own terms, without impacting gems over which I have no control.

> learning from the keyword argument warning experience

I think another important lesson from that experience is that gems are different from app code. If I want to optimize my app to use frozen string literals, I have to enable this warning at the global level, and then if warnings from gems are mixed in it makes my job a lot more annoying. For all kinds of reasons I do not want to update my apps and gems at the same time.

> Maybe what could help is a declaration on a higher level, e.g. per gem or so rather than per source file

It's a bit similar to #17156 so I like it. Actually I would much prefer this than changing the default; it allows every app and gem to upgrade on their own terms, without enforcing a one-size-fits-all default, and without the noise of a pragma in every file. Especially if combined with `frozen_string_literal: chilled` it would be very empowering.

> But also retaining compatibility for them is really trivial. If you are running a legacy code base or outdated dependency, but yet are upgrading to a newer Ruby, is it really that much work to just set `RUBYOPT="--disable=frozen_string_literal"` an move on?

Conversely let me ask: Is it really that much work to just set `RUBYOPT="--enable=frozen_string_literal"` in your application instead of forcing a new default on everyone else?


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Feature #20205: Enable `frozen_string_literal` by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20205#change-106437

* Author: byroot (Jean Boussier)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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### Context

The `frozen_string_literal: true` pragma was introduced in Ruby 2.3, and as far as I'm aware the plan was initially to make it the default for Ruby 3.0, but this plan was abandoned because it would be too much of a breaking change without any real further notice.

According to Matz, he still wishes to enable `frozen_string_literal` by default in the future, but a reasonable migration plan is required. 

The main issue is backward compatibility, flipping the switch immediately would break a lot of code, so there must be some deprecation period.

The usual the path forward for this kind of change is to emit deprecation warnings one of multiple versions in advance.

One example of that was the Ruby 2.7 keyword argument deprecation. It was quite verbose, and some users were initially annoyed, but I think the community pulled through it and I don't seem to hear much about it anymore.

So for frozen string literals, the first step would be to start warning when a string that would be frozen in the future is mutated.

### Deprecation Warning Implementation

I implemented a quick proof of concept with @etienne in https://github.com/Shopify/ruby/pull/549

In short:

- Files with `# frozen_string_literal: true` or `# frozen_string_literal: false` don't change in behavior at all.
- Files with no `# frozen_string_literal` comment are compiled to use `putchilledstring` opcode instead of regular `putstring`.
- This opcode mark the string with a user flag, when these strings are mutated, a warning is issued.

Currently the proof of concept issue the warning at the mutation location, which in some case can make locating where the string was allocated a bit hard.

But it is possible to improve it so the message also include the location at which the literal string was allocated, and learning from the keyword argument warning experience,
we can record which warnings were already issued to avoid spamming users with duplicated warnings.

As currently implemented, there is almost no overhead. If we modify the implementation to record the literal location,
we'd incur a small memory overhead for each literal string in a file without an explicit `frozen_string_literal` pragma.

But I believe we could do it in a way that has no overhead if `Warning[:deprecated] = false`.

### Timeline

The migration would happen in 3 steps, each step can potentially last multiple releases. e.g. `R0` could be `3.4`, `R1` be `3.7` and `R2` be `4.0`.
I don't have a strong opinion on the pace.

- Release `R0`: introduce the deprecation warning (only if deprecation warnings enabled).
- Release `R1`: make the deprecation warning show up regardless of verbosity level.
- Release `R2`: make string literals frozen by default.

### Impact

Given that `rubocop` is quite popular in the community and it has enforced the usage of `# frozen_string_literal: true` for years now,
I suspect a large part of the actively maintained codebases in the wild wouldn't see any warnings.

And with recent versions of `minitest` enabling deprecation warnings by default (and [potentially RSpec too](https://github.com/rspec/rspec-core/issues/2867)),
the few that didn't migrate will likely be made compatible quickly.

The real problem of course are the less actively developed libraries and applications. For such cases, any codebase can remain compatible by setting `RUBYOPT="--disable=frozen_string_literal"`,
and so even after `R2` release. The flag would never be removed any legacy codebase can continue upgrading Ruby without changing a single line of cod by just flipping this flag.

### Workflow for library maintainers

As a library maintainer, fixing the deprecation warnings can be as simple as prepending `# frozen_string_literal: false` at the top of all their source files, and this will keep working forever.

Alternatively they can of course make their code compatible with frozen string literals.

Code that is frozen string literal compatible doesn't need to explicitly declare it. Only code that need it turned of need to do so.

### Workflow for application owners

For application owners, the workflow is the same than for libraries.

However if they depend on a gem that hasn't updated, or that they can't upgrade it, they can run their application with `RUBYOPT="--disable=frozen_string_literal"` and it will keep working forever.

Any user running into an incompatibility issue can set `RUBYOPT="--disable=frozen_string_literal"` forever, even in `4.x`, the only thing changing is the default value.

And any application for which all dependencies have been made fully frozen string literal compatible can set `RUBYOPT="--enable=frozen_string_literal"` and start immediately removing magic comment from their codebase.




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