From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Delivered-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Received: from kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.24]) by blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDA417C23D7 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:05:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (smtp.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.201]) by kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE53EA67B0 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.nagaokaut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B198FC5C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:29 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp Received: from funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3XsYlPRgR7cY for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.1.100]) by funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37BA8FC57 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from carbon.ruby-lang.org (carbon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.68]) by voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0E5952423 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from beryllium.ruby-lang.org (beryllium.ruby-lang.org [127.0.0.1]) by carbon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF59B3C21F12F; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from fluorine.ruby-lang.org (www.rubyist.net [210.251.121.216]) by carbon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84683C21F126 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from ruby-lang.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fluorine.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B528C3ED49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:17 +0900 (JST) Delivered-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:17 +0900 Posted: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:17:17 +0900 From: Shyouhei Urabe Reply-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Subject: [ruby-core:37866] [Backport87 - Feature #4996][Open] About 1.8.7 EOL To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-Id: X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 37866 X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)]; post only (only members can post) X-ML-Info: If you have a question, send e-mail with the body "help" (without quotes) to the address ruby-core-ctl@ruby-lang.org; help= X-Mailer: Redmine X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb3 (2006-10-05) on carbon.ruby-lang.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_50,CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,X_MAILER_PRESENT autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb3 X-Redmine-Issue-Author: shyouhei X-Redmine-Issue-Id: 4996 X-Redmine-Mailinglistintegration-Message-Ids: 7127 X-Redmine-Project: ruby-187 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Redmine-Site: Ruby Issue Tracking System X-Redmine-Host: redmine.ruby-lang.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Precedence: bulk List-Id: ruby-core.ruby-lang.org List-Software: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] List-Post: List-Owner: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Issue #4996 has been reported by Shyouhei Urabe. ---------------------------------------- Feature #4996: About 1.8.7 EOL http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/4996 Author: Shyouhei Urabe Status: Open Priority: Normal Assignee: Category: core Target version: No, not now. Don't worry. But we have to start talking about this topic: when and how 1.8.7 should die. "You should really use 1.9". I have said this again and again and now repeat it once more. As we're about to release 1.9.3 I can't but say it is, totally wonderful. Rich features. Faster execution. Rubygems integrated. Rails works perfectly. I've been using 1.9 for years and now I can't go back to the days without it. So why there's still 1.8.7? It's also clear: for system admins. So far 1.8.7 has been adopted widely because it was a state of art ruby implementation of the day it was released. Even after you stop writing software for something, it needs bugfixes and maintenance releases. For ruby 1.8.7 , that's what I'd been offering for these three years. Now... I know many of you're still developing your software against 1.8.7 in spite of its dead-endedness. Sooner or later the whole Ruby community will move towards 1.9 and those 1.8.7-based systems are expected to become unmaintained. I don't like the situation. I want you and your system to be 1.9 ready. So to encourage your moving towards 1.9, I think I should define 1.8.7's end-of-life to be at some point in the future. I guess you're not moving to 1.9 because 1.8 is (or at least seems to be) maintained. Let's stop it. We will no longer touch 1.8.7 in any way once after the EOL. right? My current timeline (to be rescheduled) is: - Normal maintenance (as it is today): provided until June 2012, - Security fixes: provided until June 2013. Give us your opinioms. -- http://redmine.ruby-lang.org