From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS4713 221.184.0.0/13 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF48B1F405 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 08:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF63120C66; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:35:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net (dcvr.yhbt.net [64.71.152.64]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EECF120C63 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:35:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966011F405; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 08:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 08:34:57 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-ID: <20180809083457.jd2smdibsqjpwwcj@whir> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 88378 Subject: [ruby-core:88378] Re: [Ruby trunk Feature#13618] [PATCH] auto fiber schedule for rb_wait_for_single_fd and rb_waitpid X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" samuel@oriontransfer.net wrote: > Also, do you think you can make Ruby's native timeout safe? My > understanding is that it was a bit unpredictable. With > `async`, the timeout will only affect IO operations, so it is > predictable (since you already expect IO operations to fail > sometimes). Right, interrupts make it unpredictable. We can control interrupt timing with Thread.handle_interrupts, but the API is verbose. Moving Timeout into the VM would allow an interrupt-free implementation; so any sleeping calls (Queue#pop, IO.select, waitpid,...) will all be aware of timeouts and not rely on interrupts. Public API design would require a separate discussion; but first I want to be able to move Timeout into the VM.