From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS4713 221.184.0.0/13 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE1E21841 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A690C120931; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:47:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net (dcvr.yhbt.net [64.71.152.64]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E82FF12090A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:47:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE67121841; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:47:01 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-ID: <20180430104701.GA27909@dcvr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 86775 Subject: [ruby-core:86775] Re: [Ruby trunk Feature#13618] [PATCH] auto fiber schedule for rb_wait_for_single_fd and rb_waitpid X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" samuel@oriontransfer.org wrote: > If you use any kind of thread-safe shared mutable state (e.g. > a queue), you will invoke some kind of IPC (syscall) overhead. There's unavoidable locking costs we're always paying inside the kernel for every epoll_ctl/epoll_wait/kevent syscall. > If you don't need to communicate between threads, you can > avoid all IPC, e.g. > https://github.com/socketry/async/blob/master/lib/async/queue.rb > doesn't directly invoke any kind of IPC/syscall in order to > function. Since we're paying the locking cost inside the kernel, we won't need to pay that cost in userspace (with one-shot). So we might as well take advantage of the fact we're getting "free" thread-safety from the kernel...