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From: James Tucker <jftucker@gmail.com>
To: rack-devel@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not cleaning up tempfiles for multipart?
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:05:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <017D721C-14F0-478C-A32B-F686F77059C4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44f3f951-889e-45ec-ae46-40a371329a9e@e1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>

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On 6 Mar 2010, at 10:25, Hongli Lai wrote:

> On Mar 6, 8:55 am, Eric Wong <normalper...@yhbt.net> wrote:
>> Charles Oliver Nutter <head...@headius.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If I'm correct, this is a bug. Tempfiles should not be relied upon to
>>> clean themselves up in response to GC, since you don't know when GC
>>> will fire...
>> 
>> Why not?  Tempfiles are objects, too.  It's perfectly reasonable
>> to let GC clean them up like any other object.
> 
> Phusion Passenger terminates worker processes by calling exit!. This
> does not call finalizers on MRI, causing temp files to be left behind
> sometimes.

So use #exit. Speed isn't everything.

> There seems to be no way to call finalizers, even GC.start
> doesn't work. I too would like to see Tempfiles being cleaned up
> explicitly.

GC.start makes no promises of determinism, so expecting it to have any effect is wrong thinking, expecting calls over a longer time period to eventually do something, sure, but immediate, no.

The cleanup will have to be done by the handler stack or a wrapping middleware as Eric has pointed out.

> Other than that, I've seen system administrators who are confused by
> the fact that such Tempfiles are not immediately cleaned up. Some
> people who operate websites that handle a large number of concurrent
> uploads are worried that they might run out of disk space because of
> this.

There's no accounting for sysadmins who can't use lsof.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-08 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-05 14:40 Not cleaning up tempfiles for multipart? Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-05 14:47 ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-05 14:48   ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-06 10:20   ` Hongli Lai
2010-03-07 14:25     ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-06  7:55 ` Eric Wong
2010-03-06 10:25   ` Hongli Lai
2010-03-07 14:34     ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-08  0:22       ` Eric Wong
2010-03-08  1:12         ` Eric Wong
2010-03-17 15:41           ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-18  9:54             ` Eric Wong
2014-01-06 22:45               ` Wojtek Kruszewski
2014-02-11 21:05                 ` Eric Wong
2014-03-27 21:40                   ` Lenny Marks
2010-03-07 23:53     ` Eric Wong
2010-03-08 11:26       ` Hongli Lai
2010-03-08 11:30         ` Hongli Lai
2010-03-08 14:33           ` Randy Fischer
2010-03-08 14:43           ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-08 14:49             ` James Tucker
2010-03-17  2:37           ` Eric Wong
2010-03-08 13:22         ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-08 14:42         ` James Tucker
2010-03-08 17:24           ` Hongli Lai
2010-03-09  7:43             ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-08 10:05     ` James Tucker [this message]
2010-03-07 14:27   ` Charles Oliver Nutter
2010-03-08  0:18     ` Eric Wong
2010-03-08 10:07       ` James Tucker

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