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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>, Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
	 meta@public-inbox.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Working with public-inbox.org
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:36:38 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1608281033340.129229@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2c4d54f-e3be-8e17-860c-d9b8bacf68e0@gmail.com>

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Hi Kuba,

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Jakub Narębski wrote:

> W dniu 25.08.2016 o 14:58, Johannes Schindelin pisze:
> > On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Eric Wong wrote:
> >> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just want developers who are already familiar with Git, and come up with
> >>> an improvement to Git itself, to be able to contribute it without having
> >>> to pull out their hair in despair.
> >>
> >> We want the same thing.  I just want to go farther and get
> >> people familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools instead of
> >> proprietary and centralized ones.
> > 
> > Why require users to get familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools
> > *unless* they make things provably more convenient? So far, I only see
> > that this would add to the hurdle, not improve things.
> 
> Arguably for some federated/decentralized tools are preferred
> (for philosophical reasons), even if they do not achieve even feature
> parity with centralized tools (c.f. FSF).

This statement is false. If you had talked about *your* preference, it
would be true. But to state that federated/decentralized tools are
universally preferred is nonsense.

You know as well as I do that most users/contributors go for convenience.

And if you require an inconvenient step (e.g. subscribing to a
federated/decentralized philosophy), most potential contributors simply
stop being potential contributors. End of story.

Ciao,
Johannes

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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-16 16:55 Working with public-inbox.org [Was: [PATCH] rev-parse: respect core.hooksPath in --git-path] Stefan Beller
2016-08-16 17:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-16 17:20   ` Jeff King
2016-08-16 17:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-16 17:22   ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-16 17:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-16 20:44   ` Eric Wong
2016-08-16 20:56     ` Eric Wong
2016-08-18 12:42 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-18 20:49   ` Eric Wong
2016-08-18 21:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-19 15:18       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-19 15:30     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-19 16:55       ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-19 22:35         ` Eric Wong
2016-08-22 13:38         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-22 19:21         ` Jeff King
2016-08-19 22:35       ` Eric Wong
2016-08-22 13:18         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-22 18:05           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-25 13:21             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-28 18:23               ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29 10:46                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-22 22:55           ` Eric Wong
2016-08-25 12:58             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-27 22:38               ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-28  8:36                 ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2016-08-28 11:41                   ` Working with public-inbox.org Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29  5:35                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-19 15:03   ` Working with public-inbox.org [Was: [PATCH] rev-parse: respect core.hooksPath in --git-path] Jeff King
2016-08-20 19:57     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-23  4:47       ` Arif Khokar
2016-08-24 15:34         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-24 18:49           ` Eric Wong
2016-08-24 19:12             ` Jeff King
2016-08-24 19:27               ` Eric Wong
2016-08-25  3:40             ` Arif Khokar
2016-08-25  2:41           ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-10 16:10           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-13  5:52             ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-13 14:37               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-02-14  3:56                 ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-14  3:59                   ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-14  7:13                   ` Eric Wong
2017-02-13 19:21               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-14  3:55                 ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-14  4:41                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-14  5:09                     ` Arif Khokar
2017-02-14  5:14                     ` Jeff King
2016-08-22 13:06     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-22 13:15       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-22 20:38         ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-24 13:04           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-24 19:16             ` Eric Wong
2016-08-25 13:08               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-25  3:57             ` Arif Khokar
2016-08-25 13:01               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-25 23:14                 ` Arif Khokar
2016-08-26  8:08                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-27 22:26         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-28  8:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-28 13:45             ` Announcing Git User's Survey 2016 [was: Working with public-inbox.org] Jakub Narębski
2016-09-09 13:06               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-09 18:51                 ` Jakub Narębski

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