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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: meta@public-inbox.org
Subject: Re: lei missing mails
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:59:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLc8HSZxw1ucPJbo2vVhMa9P1z0bbEQ7pErTgyEUuZ+Dw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220630085539.M324144@dcvr>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 2:55 AM Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
>
> Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 11:27 AM Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> > > Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:30 AM Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> > > > > Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using lei with lore where I have 2 queries which overlap. Really,
> > > > > > one is a subset of the other. On those overlapping threads, I'm
> > > > > > finding that sometimes new messages are written to one mailbox and not
> > > > > > the other. (At least sometimes, the messages may be missing from all
> > > > > > mailboxes sometimes too. I'm not certain.) Using --remote-fudge-time
> > > > > > to force refetching seems to get the missing mails. I haven't found
> > > > > > anything strange in timestamps of the missing mails, but otherwise am
> > > > > > not sure how to debug this further. The queries are retrieving full
> > > > > > threads and the missing mails are in the threads, but not direct
> > > > > > matches to the queries. I realize that's not a lot of detail to go on.
> > > > > > Suggestions on debugging this further?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this with 1.8 or 1.7?
> > > >
> > > > Commit 68b53c888911 actually. So post 1.8.
> > >
> > > OK, thanks for that info.
> > >
> > > > > I forgot to note in the release notes, but there were some
> > > > > SQLite usage-related fixes which could avoid missing messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'll need "lei daemon-kill" after upgrading to 1.8 to ensure
> > > > > the new code is running.
> > > >
> > > > It's possible I haven't done that since updating though I do vaguely
> > > > recall seeing something about needing to do that. Is there any way to
> > > > tell before I restart it?
> > >
> > > Not really, but it's pretty cheap to restart (assuming there's no
> > > long-running jobs).
> >
> > I've restarted and just hit this again.
>
> Ugh, sorry to hear that :<
>
> > > > > What might be interesting is to use the URLs lei prints and
> > > > > comparing the results w/o lei.
> >
> > $ lei up --all
> > # updating /home/rob/Mail/from-me
> > # updating /home/rob/Mail/missing-cc
> > # updating /home/rob/Mail/my-patches
> > # updating /home/rob/Mail/pci
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ limiting to 2022-06-27 12:42 -0600 and newer
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ limiting to 2022-06-27  9:50 -0600 and newer
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ limiting to 2022-06-27 12:42 -0600 and newer
> > # /usr/bin/curl -Sf -s -d ''
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/?x=m&t=1&q=(dt%3A20220529211430..+AND+(f%3Arobh%40kernel.org+OR+f%3Arobh%2Bdt%40kernel.org))+AND+dt%3A20220627184226..
> > # /home/rob/.local/share/lei/store 144/144
> > # /home/rob/.local/share/lei/store 3/3
> > # /usr/bin/curl -Sf -s -d ''
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/?x=m&t=1&q=((dfn%3Adrivers+OR+dfn%3Aarch+OR+dfn%3ADocumentation%2F*+OR+dfn%3Ainclude+OR+dfn%3Ascripts)+AND+f%3Arobh%40kernel.org+AND+rt%3A1640812470..)+AND+dt%3A20220627155025..
> > # /usr/bin/curl -Sf -s -d ''
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/?x=m&t=1&q=(l%3Alinux-pci+dfn%3Adrivers%2Fpci%2Fcontroller+dt%3A20220529211430..)+AND+dt%3A20220627184226..
> > # /home/rob/.local/share/lei/store 0/0
> > # /home/rob/.local/share/lei/store 362/362
> > # 0 written to /home/rob/Mail/missing-cc/ (0 matches)
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 72/72
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 4/4
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 131/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 184/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 412/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 603/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 853/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 1069/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 1442/?
> > # https://lore.kernel.org/all/ 1443/1443
> > # 1 written to /home/rob/Mail/pci/ (75 matches)
> > # 2 written to /home/rob/Mail/my-patches/ (148 matches)
> > # 7 written to /home/rob/Mail/from-me/ (1805 matches)
> >
> >
> > What I expected was 3 messages written to 'my-patches'.
> >
> > I think the problem is just simply that the new message missing
> > doesn't match the query, but is a reply to a match. So with a date
> > after the original match in the thread won't pick up anything. The 2nd
> > URL above indeed only has 2 results. I guess I just have to fetch a
> > wider window like a month every time? What's needed is a get any new
> > messages in existing threads. I don't suppose there's an efficient way
> > to do that?
>
> No, I don't think so.  I think this is a separate issue in lei...
> "t=1" in the remote query expands threads in a time-agnostic
> way, so I don't think that's the problem (though I may be wrong...).

Based on what the web interface presents, it sure seems like 't=1' is
independent of the query. The results listed are only those that match
the query and date range on the match.

For example, this query returns 3 matches:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/?x=m&t=1&q=((dfn%3Adrivers+OR+dfn%3Aarch+OR+dfn%3ADocumentation%2F*+OR+dfn%3Ainclude+OR+dfn%3Ascripts)+AND+f%3Arobh%40kernel.org+AND+rt%3A1641934905..)+AND+dt%3A20220630203819..

If I change 'dt' to 1 day earlier, I get 1 more match:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/?x=m&t=1&q=((dfn%3Adrivers+OR+dfn%3Aarch+OR+dfn%3ADocumentation%2F*+OR+dfn%3Ainclude+OR+dfn%3Ascripts)+AND+f%3Arobh%40kernel.org+AND+rt%3A1641934905..)+AND+dt%3A20220629203819..

That 4th match has a reply after 6/30, but the 1st query will not get
the reply. This is all reproducible without lei involved at all.

What seems to be needed is a 'thread date' which is the latest time
for any message in a thread that matches. Or perhaps some way to
separate the query from what's transferred. IOW, query for X, but only
send results newer than some date.

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-11 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 16:15 lei missing mails Rob Herring
2022-06-29 16:30 ` Eric Wong
2022-06-29 16:53   ` Rob Herring
2022-06-29 17:27     ` Eric Wong
2022-06-29 22:01       ` Rob Herring
2022-06-30  8:55         ` Eric Wong
2022-07-07  9:48           ` Eric Wong
2022-07-11 21:17             ` Rob Herring
2022-07-11 21:59           ` Rob Herring [this message]
2022-07-18 23:41             ` Eric Wong
2022-07-20 22:57               ` [PATCH] www: note "x=m" and "t=1" (mis)use for GET requests Eric Wong

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