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From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>, meta@public-inbox.org
Subject: IMAP vs NNTP [was: make menuconfig interface for lei / grok-pull]
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:04:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210916200423.GA22856@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210916174312.5tj53h4mq5ngnake@meerkat.local>

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:06:05PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Does lore.kernel.org run public-inbox-imapd?
> 
> I'm still not convinced it's useful for huge collections, especially
> considering how chatty IMAP is. Is there any benefit to enable it for lei use?

lei tries to treat IMAP and NNTP the same for (import|tag).

One benefit of IMAP over NNTP is it doesn't add Xref or
Newsgroups headers that could throw off OID-based deduplication.
The other is compression (see below).

lei will be able to use IMAP IDLE to detect new messages for
auto-import; AFAIK there's nothing like it in NNTP.

In general, client-side support for read-only IMAP folders is
lacking, but lei isn't too different in that regard.

On the Perl side (which affects lei):

* the Mail::IMAPClient maintainer has been responsive to
  bugfixes I've sent, while the Net::NNTP (libnet) maintainer
  hasn't been.

* as a result, Net::NNTP doesn't have DEFLATE support, yet
  https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=129966
  https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=129967

* Net::NNTP is bundled with Perl, but Mail::IMAPClient is a
  separate package (but widely-packaged by distros)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-16 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-15 21:34 make menuconfig interface for lei / grok-pull Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-15 21:44 ` Eric Wong
2021-09-15 21:57   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-15 23:12     ` Eric Wong
2021-09-15 22:36   ` Kyle Meyer
2021-09-15 23:31     ` Eric Wong
2021-09-16  2:59   ` Eric Wong
2021-09-15 23:06 ` Eric Wong
2021-09-16 17:43   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-09-16 20:04     ` Eric Wong [this message]
2021-09-19 21:21   ` Eric Wong
2021-09-16 17:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-09-16 23:54   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-16 21:09 ` lei import on epochs [was: make menuconfig interface for lei / grok-pull] Eric Wong
2021-09-16 23:53   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-17  0:22     ` Eric Wong
2021-09-17  0:48       ` Luis Chamberlain

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