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From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, meta@public-inbox.org
Subject: Re: workflow problems and possible public-inbox solutions
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 15:03:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191018190305.GF25456@chatter.i7.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191018032516.GB29290@dcvr>

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:25:16AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
>It seems like there's a bunch of problems the workflows@vger
>list is trying to solve.  Some can be solved independently
>of others.
>
>Here's a summary of them and where items in
>https://public-inbox.org/TODO list can be possible solution
>(I'm not claiming it can solve everything :P)

Well, then you'd have to rename the project as "emacs". :)

>1. vger deliverability problems to major mail providers
>
>(NNTP|public-inbox) => POP3 bridge, since all major providers
>support importing mail from POP3.
>
> https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160411034104.GA7817@dcvr.yhbt.net/
>
>Locally-run NNTP -> mail fetchers can also work, but requires
>more effort to setup.

There is also this:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dborkman/l2md.git/

With a bit more tweaking (see TODO), it can be made into a very nice 
generic interface tool -- in fact, I hope to use it at some point for 
feeding patches into patchwork instead of piping directly from postfix.

>2. attestation of messages
>
>Self-publishing "Sent Mail" folders via NNTP or git,
>(similar to Certificate Transparency):
>https://lore.kernel.org/workflows/20191010192852.wl622ijvyy6i6tiu@chatter.i7.local/
>
>This would provide redundancy, too; and it's probably more
>usable and learnable than GPG :P

Well, it still uses GPG, but it hides away the horrible parts. The 
easiest way to accomplish auto-signing is to create a dedicated ECC 
subkey and store it (and just it) in a dedicated dir used by the 
self-publishing tool.

>4. secret exchanges for embargoed issues
>
>No idea, really; not my department :P
>
>It would be good if all messages in the exchange can be
>published and mirrored once the embargo is lifted, though.

There is ongoing separate effort to address this, using remail:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tglx/remail.git/

I haven't started implementing it yet, but my hope is to provide builtin 
archives that can be released once the embargo is lifted.

-K

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-18 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18  3:25 workflow problems and possible public-inbox solutions Eric Wong
2019-10-18 19:01 ` Eric Wong
2019-10-18 19:03 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2019-10-19  0:29   ` Eric Wong

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