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Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> To: Ian Kelling Subject: Re: GNU Mailman settings for this list In-Reply-To: <87zhis83u5.fsf@fsf.org> (Ian Kelling's message of "Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:26:42 -0400") References: <7e7f4c90-06ac-45fb-86b9-dba297c0f77c@pocock.pro> <877e5z80z7.fsf@wjsullivan.net> <878sqc9yeb.fsf@fsf.org> <87zhis83u5.fsf@fsf.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Accept: text/plain,text/markdown,text/x-org,text/html,text/*,*/* Accept-Language: ru,en Mail-Copies-To: always Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 02:03:38 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.128.47 X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4638040361209977812==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --===============4638040361209977812== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Kelling wrote: > Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> writes: >> >> In short, I propose to refrain from _any_ mangling of messages. > > I brought up some points, but I don't feel too strongly one way or the ot= her. I think John S is fond of the footer. If the reason for a footer to exist is to remind how to unsubscribe, I=E2= =80=99d like to note, that: 1. It actually says nothing about unsubscription. 2. MUAs that an unsophisticated user would probably use, that is unfortunat= ely web-based and nonfree, normally support =E2=80=98List-Unsubscribe=E2=80= =99 header. Namely: =2D Google Mail [1] =2D Yandex Mail [2] =2D Yahoo Mail [3] =2D GMX [only anecdotal evidence so far] =2D Outlook.com [4] and actually probably most of them. [1] https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8151?hl=3Den [2] https://yandex.com/support/mail/web/spam.html (to avoid running nonfree scripts, disable CSS and search for =E2=80=9C= you can unsubscribe right from your mailbox=E2=80=9D) [3] https://www.oath.com/press/introducing-reminders-and-unsubscribe-featur= es-in-yahoo-mail/ [4] https://www.groovypost.com/howto/unsubscribe-newsletters-outlook-com/ > Of course we care a lot what people on this list want, so if people care,= they should chime in. Yes, and there was one opinion voiced the last time: | Personally I dislike these and would love to see them removed from all ma= iling lists. =E2=80=94 Bob Proulx [5] [5] <20190222140845251389751@bob.proulx.com> --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE1yoTx9fONarixgNIydoJ3hnBsjAFAl2L8ksACgkQydoJ3hnB sjAFIgf+JK01p10QTey1VRdeAKICq/mIwZJBtr0uJT/+VytwQUX6L+iQ289B0UKE zBmjJgBs7sD2Rp+UoyzLJlM9pPaxZmAKOusTNRqJXnDmA6Sp8xPrnBRBnjrsXIrI 9UEYbSLeg6PRT4X3GJM8VUuPBwl1X9rsZmmHJJAqb6Mnkua1kRGWfGJWqwfkpWhx JqSohR6ycgMYmousN6mP1SGCeX+OAAMgtToBoxpyylUivPVpf61H6PajJC71dVwJ OGbBWthwsMaDQvuqVPLZzE5LL0uoIh4a6FiCS93cdjQF1T6uB73KDyyE4nrXYUlR y/BYbzdN24J00CXVpDje7BhNQRx1xg== =SRyr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============4638040361209977812== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNz --===============4638040361209977812==--