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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42b Subject: Re: FSF individualism in Logic Magazine X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3548703615271438700==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --===============3548703615271438700== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny Spitzberg wrote: > this article on the "fai= lure" of free software ran last month (long before the recent scandal) and = offers what could be an important wake up call =E2=80=94 especially in ligh= t of the wild hand-wringing about RMS. > As we look forward from this RMS fracas, I wonder how other folks here fe= el about this article. Well, I am not much aware of that fracas, and probably missed the connectio= n. From a sideways glance, it looked like yet another malevolent hype star= ted by professional SJWs, completely unrelated to software freedom. If I a= m wrong, please enlighten me. > The following quote feels prescient: > > =E2=80=9CFree software pioneers like Stallman tended to approach the issu= e from an individualized perspective, drawn from the 1970s-1980s hacker cul= ture that many of them came from: if you could change how enough hackers wr= ote and used software, you could change the world. This highly personalized= model of social change proposed an individual solution to a structural pro= blem, which necessarily neglected the wider social context.=E2=80=9D I am not that familiar with RMS=E2=80=99s views to say whether a claim that= =E2=80=9Cif you could change how enough hackers wrote and used software, y= ou could change the world=E2=80=9D may be really attributed to him either. But if you could change _how_ hackers write software, you could change the = world. Free software + bazaar development is exactly about that, not about= quantities. And I do not observe any failure on that front. 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