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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Lori Nagel <jastiv@yahoo.com>,
	Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
	<libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>,
	Pedro Lucas Porcellis <porcellis@eletrotupi.com>,
	Kaio Duarte Costa <kaiod@riseup.net>
Cc: "libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org"
	<libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>,
	 "Adrienne G. Thompson" <adriennegayethompson@gmail.com>,
	"gregf@fsf.org" <gregf@fsf.org>, Leah Rowe <info@minifree.org>,
	"campaigns@fsf.org" <campaigns@fsf.org>, FSF <info@fsf.org>
Subject: Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 04:36:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F6C88EF5-A002-414C-B146-E277709F0642@gnu.support> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <881589586.491440.1646362340639@mail.yahoo.com>

On March 4, 2022 2:52:20 AM UTC, Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
>Don't get me wrong.  I'm not in any way anti-RMS, but the free software
>movement needs to be about freedom respecting software, and not hero
>worship (whether that person is RMS or some other "hero")  Long term,
>what are we going to do, the whole trans-humanism thing where we
>worship a "computer" who is encoded with the "flawed" personality of a
>dead person? 
>
>On Thursday, March 3, 2022, 07:19:32 PM EST, Kaio Duarte Costa
><kaiod@riseup.net> wrote:  
> 
> Em 2022-03-03 17:04, Pedro Lucas Porcellis escreveu:
>> Do we? Isn't a lot of other people available which can offer the same
>> level of guidance as RMS? Hasn't the man spoken a lot over all those
>> years?
>> 
>> If we don't, then I think there's much more to evaluate other than
>him
>> *needing* to be on the list of speakers.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> libreplanet-discuss mailing list
>> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
>> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
>
>I agree with this, I think the question should be well analyzed, even.
>
>Many people signed up, took the time and filled out the form to
>participate in LibrePlanet 2022 as speakers, including me. It is not
>fair to those who prepared and filled out the form before, the deadline
>has passed and it was very well publicized by the way.
>
>Also, we should pay close attention before saying something like "we or
>X people (or community) need this". I respect the RMS just as I respect
>and treat anyone well, but I think you should note that the people who
>are going to speak are also leaders and no one is leading above anyone
>else. We all follow the same philosophy, and I respect everyone's
>opinion on the matter and show my disagreement on the issue
>respectfully
>here. 

I find that very disrespectful statement. In Europe I have never seen anybody making such comments, my friend would by shy or feel guilty to speak like that. And haven thanks I don't have such rude friends.

Obviously it does not matter to you.

I expect from this list civilized talk.


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-04 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <881589586.491440.1646362340639.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2022-03-04  2:52 ` why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list? Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
2022-03-04  4:36   ` Jean Louis [this message]
2022-03-08 21:30 Jim Fulner
2022-03-08 21:42 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-08 23:03   ` Jim Fulner
2022-03-09  0:41     ` Jean Louis
2022-03-08 22:19 ` Thomas Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-03-07 11:25 Dora Scilipoti
2022-03-13 19:22 ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2022-03-13 20:02   ` Kaio Duarte Costa
2022-03-16  0:12     ` Akira Urushibata
2022-03-16 22:45       ` Thomas Lord
2022-03-20 23:49         ` Akira Urushibata
2022-03-05 22:46 Dora Scilipoti
2022-03-06  2:25 ` Kaio Duarte Costa
2022-03-06 16:18   ` Dora Scilipoti
2022-03-06 18:44     ` Dora Scilipoti
2022-03-06 20:50     ` Kaio Duarte Costa
2022-03-01  1:34 Dora Scilipoti
2022-02-27  0:02 Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2022-03-03 18:57 ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2022-03-03 19:21   ` Danny Spitzberg
2022-03-16 22:23     ` Yuchen Pei
2022-03-16 22:37       ` Thomas Lord
2022-03-03 20:04   ` Pedro Lucas Porcellis
2022-03-03 21:33     ` Kaio Duarte Costa
2022-03-04  4:25   ` Jean Louis
2022-03-04 15:21     ` Danny Spitzberg
2022-03-04 15:28       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-04 16:19         ` Danny Spitzberg
2022-03-04 17:17       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2022-03-05  9:22         ` Danny Spitzberg
2022-03-06 17:52           ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2022-03-06 18:18             ` Danny Spitzberg
2022-03-07 14:57               ` Jean Louis
2022-03-06 21:31             ` Kaio Duarte Costa

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