Yes, and I think it is way bigger than just privacy. My mother told I must feel much freer when I learned driving. The same thing goes to the computers and the Internet - while the computers can be programmed by anyone and people can upload anything to their heart's content on the Internet, the prevailing direction is so much the opposite. The reversing of this trend will be thrilling, educational and world changing! Yes, education will be the key - and it's not that I am suggesting people go back to university or anything formal (although nothing wrong with that)- we can educate each other! Combining free software development and mutual education is something that we should do. To give a specific example, I follow this interactive tutorial with my friend's daughter [1]https://jscoq.github.io/ext/sf/lf/full/Basics.html and this has been mutually beneficial. Courses like these lend themselves very well to studying in pairs or groups. If free software development can take advantage of something like this - implementing well specified software (even better if accompanied by proofs?) - maybe we can have a model of development that scales to thousands of programmers😄 -Yasu On May 3, 2022, at 17:02, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss wrote:  On 02/05/2022 22:42, Yasuaki Kudo wrote: Just like the 'Occupy Wall St.', can we have continuous digital assemblies where ideas can be discussed all the time (people have different schedules and live in various timezones anyway) for the digital transformation we are seeking? We can use something like: [1]https://communitybridge.com/bbb-room/coffee/ Hot Topics that come to my mind 😄 Isn't the idea of Occupy wall street to be visible to the general population? We can use bbb to plan things and discuss but the more we do this as public facing the more effect it may have and also encourage others to get involved. People join a conversation if it is emotive, so we can strike a chord with people on privacy or what the software is doing in the background and hopefully make people stop, think and start to make developers accountable. But also change our education system so that it is normal to put privacy before profits when developing apps / software. Paul _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss References 1. https://jscoq.github.io/ext/sf/lf/full/Basics.html