From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37BBE1F954 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 02:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50273 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frw8P-0006pp-Nw for e@80x24.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:11:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46227) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frw87-0006ip-U7 for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:10:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frw87-0002it-2G for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:10:47 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d]:43249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1frw86-0002iQ-QO for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:10:47 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id y10-v6so14222266ioa.10 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oreilly-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VCBEKhYsMWGdbVO31sdtYatGxAl66cOxTNlva5EY/YY=; b=BubonwG7IvEw9lD3fOaHjkap19xu9b9Vh7aLHDYJiQoFuphhXqTZnYEIo8bsZc9SIw Qo96MEUlz0l2Uw3bppmwOqARZYrMMoDPKXpjPc5xFh2mj1HR10OL7IVfY+qa7UCOUcyZ cj13qjiv25GAevndVZoPv4ajVGROeD/7YwhwUdfKKLGgAUgyj6Gms+8jgqX0G93Yv4I/ Khzok2CkSS/4cFYKYenk0Wqr3gkvCA+7nzX7nVuyGKIF76fByS6ksZD9cZ1IcxEf3TAW SmuefpitbKpEI9DeeoG0N7f2/iv4nJt+YbjWulHce4KkR1uwy7YSVNXTCbpDq8E1fCei xsLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VCBEKhYsMWGdbVO31sdtYatGxAl66cOxTNlva5EY/YY=; b=B8XssQH9LzAESoxCsTZFz2gBe96EzpLk7ng4DKOlss9tRQEVBBgM9o4C6Y7GxrZdgV aU8NftXIoOaZblPtqrXlv/YNYLwCFO2IaxeXx8oxib/LYfvwTIyNGoLE5BMw8Xa5bxP2 sY06vOmIDRXEG2D9UKWfJ0S12+LCuDREyN/X1A2KcRLHxRpx3hgUCZsZeRiLvfljUh4F 7GbQLoKvLzJTrFmMdF56SZCbmrD7jwutkZT7oKwvYM3OBnaANbvTCCTjvxBKYsKc66sP 1qssct8TQALxYhXrhI2wgf0xAiMZmEw6t1XIYmJ3wC1mUY77e8V5AXTLalTVI1bZJ+uR Mo+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEz6bmlTwA+UDuRd7xpNiG67o27HluHUghuyAxoOluthDA0Qfd0 uameIHWigRSrEHnbz4j0oR34MG54iBfWibkj5xbevKBKcTk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPyT4eL/P+F0H/CJELupvE15g2YowKpkxnbZZTIC3lRI74FskOHvh0GLuMORQ7M30dRtbXrS0a1U/ofYmIwhHUI= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:278b:: with SMTP id n133-v6mr40270582ion.207.1534817445795; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:10:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:850c:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Oram Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:10:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 Subject: Direct data and derived data: chance for a data GPL? X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" The world is abuzz with debates over user data in the hands of social media companies and tech corporations. One of the distinctions that observers note is between data that we provide directly--by posting--and data that is derived from our direct data. Derived data usually draws on other people's aggregated data and has predictive powers going way beyond what we say in our directly posted data. Many policy-makers have also proposed compensating the public for the data they give to online sites. Companies usually guard derived data assiduously and refuse to delete it when we ask them to delete our direct data. So I wonder whether free software proponents should propose something like the GPK or copyleft for user data: if you use my data, you have to give me access to whatever insights you derive from it. Has this been discussed anywhere? Andy Oram | Editor O'Reilly Media, Inc. | 617-499-7479 | oreilly.com [image: oreilly_email_logo.png] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss