From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFADF208D0 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djQcW-00043I-Nh for e@80x24.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 09:50:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djBJE-0003cX-1n for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:29:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djBJC-0002Ms-Sm for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:29:32 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]:33305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djBJC-0002LI-N0 for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:29:30 -0400 Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id j189so41263618vka.0 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oreilly-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8rX5Q93u9R9GLF9+p4YuTxzlcQJYXejD7KNumhE+qUo=; b=bCDSPRzBw38OR7m5QR7eiCvxWzjAnhy8GzqwNpx/n8WSqJrOHqGbVIZ99NGNX4mG5i ugEelPOUQvBB/dCdEia6JOCuv2gDQJEhhrm9v2823bgJ46CEHJHjXMYVX9CgW+NIuImF uwUllQm8rPyWHnMH7M57bEszFThHm4HRDCn5yWBB/PgCSbKMSNNY5lOD/zRnxrMf+cg4 mr57Vrso9gFE5rmNLY1xmMXXkwFcarRcNT8Siz94noQIoxrndCh3/BSx/VaiROmpvdlu 3P3hV11u+8QNqUn7Rs9xhSOKQCPmEjXjjzurIicL4Bzv9e19Yn1bCav9kMlGb/2Z4at4 88Lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8rX5Q93u9R9GLF9+p4YuTxzlcQJYXejD7KNumhE+qUo=; b=Deuzv2yk/HcFzGN4t5R5wUdG2E4dGvMel+mcrgj8AH5l2z8xBqnjZIp1JMYOJZ8fA0 CJSFLipeAYvwmXlTjRXuTpK8dPECOj8F7gcWNvtebfK9kmZRQgkZ/CNRtPhUkNpXo1n3 b6kt32GKx8xty1P8l4L5DVl7iQ1AWxrEpDpgQErcf2zre8IIbbj3vMXkQBHffgQADoJz eKyaLPrs1YR4z3vvakYP7smPiUx5Lin8YG4VZmOHFMwyRKb5Nvap1bV4rmUxnXfZFiCX A/nt2ajCgCsnCQE48SA5vq9wCJ/QJATXzlVnvq4iMerHoCK8bg5nIxmX7Nr3PFMoPnuP J1Ig== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5iHi3vqhPm0wVnVycXENaaJ7oHAqOzL3Oa5NP/mMN9IScIg0IEl oPQlUPUUv0G+4AvxFyxQZL1+3qlGentr4ps= X-Received: by 10.31.48.79 with SMTP id w76mr7370839vkw.51.1503178167525; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:29:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.18.213 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:29:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9c5bcec9-9b3f-12be-d254-2579351d0c9b@nominal-animal.net> References: <9c5bcec9-9b3f-12be-d254-2579351d0c9b@nominal-animal.net> From: Andy Oram Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Nominal Animal X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 09:49:54 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 Subject: Re: UTF-8 banned from being default in Chrome, Firefox X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" Thanks for reporting this interesting gap in browser support, Nominal Animal. I am not an expert in encodings or browsers, and I think the situation for each browser may be more complicated than your email suggests, but it looks like you have identified a problem. And it's interesting given the following statements. Andy --- https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-choosing-encodings "Choose UTF-8 for all content and consider converting any content in legacy encodings to UTF-8." https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_charset.asp "The default character encoding for HTML5 is UTF-8." Andy Oram | Editor O'Reilly Media, Inc. | 617-499-7479 | oreilly.com [image: oreilly_email_logo.png] On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 5:10 AM, Nominal Animal wrote: > We've lost another freedom, choosing the default character set encoding > in Firefox and Chrome/Chromium browsers. > > I only recently noticed that Firefox has banned UTF-8 as a default > character set encoding about four years ago. > Chrome followed suit this year. > > > (snip) _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss