From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 952D51F4CE for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 22:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33348 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZh4M-0002b7-A5 for e@80x24.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:45:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZh3Z-0002ap-0b for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:44:49 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f179.google.com ([209.85.208.179]:36836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZh3W-00071B-Nz for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:44:48 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id v12so16959071ljd.3 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Vg6Xw60vtZa6CKTuyq01mPiFtvEH3rsyB3bd5HHIqZU=; b=NIHs+iWr7B+qn/s/GZcly7bxHo7j0NKB0fsDMQKTmMkoC9OG0+ousFj52wV0NguUBX iM+OHHsFveiTIcIfVhdFSfmWiRYAJRhWb8fhGJgyGhpikX+l/uJIcKOwc2vx8sM2C5kQ c504H0tHV27ME4ocb5UAG9BKcbXtJ9lmTTht/B7RVzxCEehm7PjIOfP0MlW26DJVc20b eTXzdqtFsXau3sEWTL1TlUi4VQAJ2d//qdi1/oLifAO7Whd6pHL/ro7drjAA0HEbnxaB tCL4tUBhEk1E/keU55yYJVQ0uavoV6UESqRvEVeONjA2Jx6kMbKViB1szTy65tvE9ikT R/GQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532L/lW6TV2BG0seB5p7sWAdV+q95ceOBdRe9ivybzRhjpZGGIN2 NU0GHt1RQ+2jqH5RoM51p/vG4yJHGGcWZI2LfqU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyFM/eKaPT4u/vOhGp9sA1mhL9qAq2ClP/pvJJ1nCpIE61KaFUjZvXsS+eGssVJibKlDUd21Xe9/ko3F7unp+s= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a782:0:b0:249:8bf4:39da with SMTP id c2-20020a2ea782000000b002498bf439damr8565489ljf.378.1648680284571; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:44:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <25b59d57-597d-4ef4-9e93-2c067a1d81fc@rixotstudio.cz> <22a92f68-4656-b70d-fb23-fcce1c96414a@riseup.net> <30611aa0-3349-e5ee-b456-bcb7109ea896@fsf.org> <1838037285.585940.1646408572166@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ole Aamot Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 00:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness To: "rms@gnu.org" Cc: Jacob Hrbek , libreplanet-discuss , Magnus Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.179; envelope-from=ole.aamot@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-f179.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6338165234211976170==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --===============6338165234211976170== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b5cb0505db774a88" --000000000000b5cb0505db774a88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:22 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Free software means that the developers cannot decide who can use it > and who cannot. If we had the power to stop Russia from using a program, > we would also have the power to anyone else from using it. > That would not be free software. > True. We could become uncivil and block people from downloading a free software program, but there are no such (as far as I know) ipchains blocklists on www.gnomeradio.org, so there is no reason to do so either. We live in civil democracies, but Russia and Putin has invaded Ukraine. I have recently added Retro FM in Kyiv, Ukraine after discussions with Magnus (dizzi90@gmail.com), when we saw that someone with a Russian IP address deliberatedly tried to remove Retro FM from the list of Ukrainian radio stations on en.wikipedia.org, so we decided to loop censorship on Wikipedia and therefore published the station in GNOME Radio 16.0.6 for GNOME 42 to a global mirror of GNOME. See https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome-42/ and http://www.gnomeradio.org/ -- Ole Aamot Aamot Software / www.aamot.software Frydenbergveien, 0575 OSLO, Norway (+47) 45049800 / ole@aamot.software --000000000000b5cb0505db774a88 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:22 AM Richard Stallman <[1]rms@gnu.org> wrote: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Free software means that the developers cannot decide who can use it and who cannot. If we had the power to stop Russia from using a program, we would also have the power to anyone else from using it. That would not be free software. True. We could become uncivil and block people from downloading a free software program, but there are no such (as far as I know) ipchains blocklists on [2]www.gnomeradio.org, so there is no reason to do so either. We live in civil democracies, but Russia and Putin has invaded Ukraine. I have recently added Retro FM in Kyiv, Ukraine after discussions with Magnus ([3]dizzi90@gmail.com), when we saw that someone with a Russian IP address deliberatedly tried to remove Retro FM from the list of Ukrainian radio stations on [4]en.wikipedia.org, so we decided to loop censorship on Wikipedia and therefore published the station in GNOME Radio 16.0.6 for GNOME 42 to a global mirror of GNOME. See [5]https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome -42/ and [6]http://www.gnomeradio.org/ -- Ole Aamot Aamot Software / [7]www.aamot.software Frydenbergveien, 0575 OSLO, Norway (+47) 45049800 / [8]ole@aamot.software References 1. mailto:rms@gnu.org 2. http://www.gnomeradio.org/ 3. mailto:dizzi90@gmail.com 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/ 5. https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome-42/ 6. http://www.gnomeradio.org/ 7. http://www.aamot.software/ 8. mailto:ole@aamot.software --000000000000b5cb0505db774a88-- --===============6338165234211976170== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNzCg== --===============6338165234211976170==--