Re: Support RMS

[Danny Spitzberg <stationaery@gmail.com>]

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Agreed- enough!

Let’s find a way for everyone to focus on hacking happily.

We’ve got great ideas so far from folks like Aaron Paul Deb and others.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:16 PM Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> wrote:

>
> This has gotten beyond absurd.  For years, this list has not been used
> discuss developments, share projects, or even coordionate transportation
> and lodging.  It has been dominated by a few people making the same
> accusations again and again, and having others push back.   The
> accusations have never held up to scrutiny, even though we can assume
> some people make them with full sincerity.
>
> Enough already.
>
> -t
>
>
>
> On 2021-03-26 16:03, Deb Nicholson wrote:
> > Well, it's disappointing but not surprising that a call for improving
> >    the way people are treated within the free software movement is
> > being
> >    seen by some on this list as "hateful" or somehow in "opposition to
> >    free software." I honestly don't see how creating a haven for sexist
> >    behavior and disrespect can lead to the movement's growth, but maybe
> >    I'm mistaken in thinking that we all want that growth.
> >    I am grateful to those who are interested in working towards an
> >    inclusive and non-toxic future for the free software movement. Maybe
> >    I'll get to work with you all someday on one of the projects that is
> >    interested in growing the free software movement.
> >    Best,
> >    Deb
> >
> >    On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:03 PM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> >
> >      * Deb Nicholson <[1]deb@eximiousproductions.com> [2021-03-26
> > 16:52]:
> >      >    An interesting thing about men who harass women is that they
> >      usually
> >      >    don't do it to men. Men who let the community know that they
> >      "don't
> >      >    believe in harassment" are the last people to find out it's
> >      happening,
> >      >    because no one feels safe telling them.
> >      Generalization without end.
> >      Why are you sending accusations to this mailing list? How is this
> >      mailing list to defend your rights? Or is your only purpose to
> >      divide
> >      and bring more hate here?
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:deb@eximiousproductions.com
> >
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>

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   Agreed- enough!

   Let’s find a way for everyone to focus on hacking happily.

   We’ve got great ideas so far from folks like Aaron Paul Deb and
   others.

   On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:16 PM Thomas Lord <[1]lord@basiscraft.com>
   wrote:

     This has gotten beyond absurd.  For years, this list has not been
     used
     discuss developments, share projects, or even coordionate
     transportation
     and lodging.  It has been dominated by a few people making the same
     accusations again and again, and having others push back.   The
     accusations have never held up to scrutiny, even though we can
     assume
     some people make them with full sincerity.
     Enough already.
     -t
     On 2021-03-26 16:03, Deb Nicholson wrote:
     > Well, it's disappointing but not surprising that a call for
     improving
     >    the way people are treated within the free software movement is
     > being
     >    seen by some on this list as "hateful" or somehow in
     "opposition to
     >    free software." I honestly don't see how creating a haven for
     sexist
     >    behavior and disrespect can lead to the movement's growth, but
     maybe
     >    I'm mistaken in thinking that we all want that growth.
     >    I am grateful to those who are interested in working towards an
     >    inclusive and non-toxic future for the free software movement.
     Maybe
     >    I'll get to work with you all someday on one of the projects
     that is
     >    interested in growing the free software movement.
     >    Best,
     >    Deb
     >
     >    On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:03 PM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
     wrote:
     >
     >      * Deb Nicholson <[1][2]deb@eximiousproductions.com>
     [2021-03-26
     > 16:52]:
     >      >    An interesting thing about men who harass women is that
     they
     >      usually
     >      >    don't do it to men. Men who let the community know that
     they
     >      "don't
     >      >    believe in harassment" are the last people to find out
     it's
     >      happening,
     >      >    because no one feels safe telling them.
     >      Generalization without end.
     >      Why are you sending accusations to this mailing list? How is
     this
     >      mailing list to defend your rights? Or is your only purpose
     to
     >      divide
     >      and bring more hate here?
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[3]deb@eximiousproductions.com
     >
     > _______________________________________________
     > libreplanet-discuss mailing list
     > [4]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
     >
     [5]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus
     s

References

   1. mailto:lord@basiscraft.com
   2. mailto:deb@eximiousproductions.com
   3. mailto:deb@eximiousproductions.com
   4. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
   5. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

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