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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::232 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:08:00 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 Subject: FSF individualism in Logic Magazine X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1055897938282777560==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --===============1055897938282777560== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b355870592c35db2" --000000000000b355870592c35db2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all this article on the "failure" of free software ran last month (long before the recent scandal) and offers what could be an important wake up call =E2=80=94 especially in = light of the wild hand-wringing about RMS. The following quote feels prescient: =E2=80=9CFree software pioneers like Stallman tended to approach the issue = from an individualized perspective, drawn from the 1970s-1980s hacker culture that many of them came from: if you could change how enough hackers wrote and used software, you could change the world. This highly personalized model of social change proposed an individual solution to a structural problem, which necessarily neglected the wider social context.=E2=80=9D As we look forward from this RMS fracas, I wonder how other folks here feel about this article. --000000000000b355870592c35db2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi all [1]this article on the "failure" of free software ran last month (long before the recent scandal) and offers what could be an important wake up call — especially in light of the wild hand-wringing about RMS. The following quote feels prescient: “Free software pioneers like Stallman tended to approach the issue from an individualized perspective, drawn from the 1970s-1980s hacker culture that many of them came from: if you could change how enough hackers wrote and used software, you could change the world. This highly personalized model of social change proposed an individual solution to a structural problem, which necessarily neglected the wider social context.” As we look forward from this RMS fracas, I wonder how other folks here feel about this article. References 1. https://logicmag.io/failure/freedom-isnt-free/ --000000000000b355870592c35db2-- --===============1055897938282777560== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNz --===============1055897938282777560==--