Re: Support RMS

From: Deb Nicholson <deb@eximiousproductions.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Ali Reza Hayati <hayati@riseup.net>,
	Danny Spitzberg <stationaery@gmail.com>,
	 "Libre Planet, World" <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Support RMS
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:03:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE3dWx802C3EYSw0zyOVOGmbLxowtj_RLJHAZnAh=N30Ptoviw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YF5LHzI+raXkRxlg@protected.localdomain>

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Well, it's disappointing but not surprising that a call for improving the
way people are treated within the free software movement is being seen by
some on this list as "hateful" or somehow in "opposition to free software."
I honestly don't see how creating a haven for sexist behavior and
disrespect can lead to the movement's growth, but maybe I'm mistaken in
thinking that we all want that growth.

I am grateful to those who are interested in working towards an inclusive
and non-toxic future for the free software movement. Maybe I'll get to work
with you all someday on one of the projects that is interested in growing
the free software movement.

Best,
Deb

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:03 PM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> * Deb Nicholson <deb@eximiousproductions.com> [2021-03-26 16:52]:
> >    An interesting thing about men who harass women is that they usually
> >    don't do it to men. Men who let the community know that they "don't
> >    believe in harassment" are the last people to find out it's happening,
> >    because no one feels safe telling them.
>
> Generalization without end.
>
> Why are you sending accusations to this mailing list? How is this
> mailing list to defend your rights? Or is your only purpose to divide
> and bring more hate here?
>

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   Well, it's disappointing but not surprising that a call for improving
   the way people are treated within the free software movement is being
   seen by some on this list as "hateful" or somehow in "opposition to
   free software." I honestly don't see how creating a haven for sexist
   behavior and disrespect can lead to the movement's growth, but maybe
   I'm mistaken in thinking that we all want that growth.
   I am grateful to those who are interested in working towards an
   inclusive and non-toxic future for the free software movement. Maybe
   I'll get to work with you all someday on one of the projects that is
   interested in growing the free software movement.
   Best,
   Deb

   On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:03 PM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

     * Deb Nicholson <[1]deb@eximiousproductions.com> [2021-03-26 16:52]:
     >    An interesting thing about men who harass women is that they
     usually
     >    don't do it to men. Men who let the community know that they
     "don't
     >    believe in harassment" are the last people to find out it's
     happening,
     >    because no one feels safe telling them.
     Generalization without end.
     Why are you sending accusations to this mailing list? How is this
     mailing list to defend your rights? Or is your only purpose to
     divide
     and bring more hate here?

References

   1. mailto:deb@eximiousproductions.com

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