'Smee: I still think this campaign against RMS was coordinated (call me a > conspiracy nut) and that they are accomplishing some of their goals > right now. > It was very well coordinated with the help of big money! > Thanks Adrienne for sticking up for free speech. > You're welcome 'Smee. Have a nice day!! Adrienne > > > On Tue, 2019-09-24 at 11:08 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > Adrienne, that's a valid concern. People shouldn't be walking on > > eggshells. However, that's a misreading of the case here. This is > > more > > like 'Smee realizing on self-reflection that they actually *were* > > making > > assumptions and not being as considerate as they wish to be. I don't > > think this apology was an insincere fear-based one but one in which > > it's > > a modeling of holding oneself to a high standard. > > > > Again, you're right in that we live in a context where *reasonable* > > discourse gets grotesquely misrepresented and then people self-censor > > out of fear. That is a totally valid problem, and we should not > > accept > > it as okay. > > > > At the same time, we should work to treat everyone with some > > benefit-of-the-doubt and compassion. And there's nothing wrong with > > apologizing for not living up to that standard, even if someone's > > worst > > was *still* better than many people's normal. > > > > If I write something from a defensive, reactionary mindset, I would > > hope > > to recognize it and apologize if I failed to check myself before > > sending > > it. That's independent from the fact that my emotional reactionary > > writing might still be more respectful than most people's non- > > emotional > > postings. > > > > > > On 2019-09-24 10:56 a.m., Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > > Gee 'Smee: > > > Things are getting a little out of hand. So now guys can't have > > > reasonable arguments with women without feeling like they're > > > being > > > "combative"? Are you afraid someone might call you "sexist"? > > > I didn't see where you said anything objectionable or > > > "combative". > > > Adrienne > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'smee via libreplanet-discuss > > > <[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: > > > > > > I was combative in my language with Deb earlier and would like > > > to > > > apologize and say I'll do better in the future. > > > I assumed bad intentions and acted out of irritation. I'll do > > > better > > > in > > > the future to consider that there are real people with real > > > concerns > > > and try not to be combative. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > > > [2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > > [3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet- > > > discus > > > s > > > > > > -- > > > Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! > > > GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph > > > Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com > > > Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info > > > Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph > > > > > > References > > > > > > 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > > 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > > 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-di > > > scuss > > > 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph > > > 5. http://codeartnow.com/ > > > 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > > > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > > > > > > > > -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph