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To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::531; envelope-from=laurent.lyaudet@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x531.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 11:01:39 -0500 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7786191758469266232==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org --===============7786191758469266232== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ef18ce060bb566a2" --000000000000ef18ce060bb566a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Le lun. 4 d=C3=A9c. 2023 =C3=A0 18:02, a =C3=A9crit : > Send libreplanet-discuss mailing list submissions to > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus= s > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > libreplanet-discuss-owner@libreplanet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of libreplanet-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Are websites closing down en masse? (Akira Urushibata) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 12:53:57 +0900 (JST) > From: Akira Urushibata > To: > Subject: Are websites closing down en masse? > Message-ID: <2023.12.04.12.53.56.980948660@afu.wta.att.ne.jp> > > Recently I feel I frequently encounter defunct links. Links to > external material toward the bottom of Wikipedia articles often turn > out to be unavailable. > > I don't know if there is any empirical data on this. I can provide an > example from a page I help maintain. From what I see here I am pretty > sure that sites are closing down or pages are being culled en masse > for some reason: > > https://netpbm.sourceforge.net > > The ahove URL is the introductionary web page for the Netpbm software > package. At the end of the page is a list of translations of the same > into various languages. > > In early May this year I found out that out of 31 translations, > 6 were not available: > > * Russian > * Malay > * Indonesian > * German > * Polish > * Belarusian > > A recent survey (late November) showed that 4 more translations > have disappeared: > > * Spanish > * Urdu > * Greek > * Estonian > > Out of 31 translations 10 or 32.5% have disappeared. Only 21 remain. > > There must be an explanation for the rapid loss of sites and pages. > > Some sites hosting the translations look unrelated to system software. > Netpbm is well-known and links in the official Netpbm document pages > cause search engines to elevate the status of the liked pages and > their links. In other words some people add the translations to their > sites for SEO. > > One possibility I can think of is that hosting services are somehow > affected by inflation, higher interest rates and staff cutbacks at IT > firms. If anybody has better insight on the matter I'd very much like > to learn. > > Thank you for reading. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > > > ------------------------------ > > End of libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 164, Issue 1 > *************************************************** > I have not seen a speed-up of "links death". But the links I consult daily are mostly "new". Fortunately, most of the interesting links are on the Internet Archive. Sometimes, when I find a nice link, I verify that it is in the Internet Wayback Machine just in case. Best regards, Laurent Lyaudet --000000000000ef18ce060bb566a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, Le lun. 4 déc. 2023 à 18:02, <[1]libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org> a écrit : Send libreplanet-discuss mailing list submissions to [2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [4]libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org You can reach the person managing the list at [5]libreplanet-discuss-owner@libreplanet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of libreplanet-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Are websites closing down en masse? (Akira Urushibata) -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 12:53:57 +0900 (JST) From: Akira Urushibata <[6]afu@wta.att.ne.jp> To: <[7]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> Subject: Are websites closing down en masse? Message-ID: <[8]2023.12.04.12.53.56.980948660@afu.wta.att.ne.jp> Recently I feel I frequently encounter defunct links. Links to external material toward the bottom of Wikipedia articles often turn out to be unavailable. I don't know if there is any empirical data on this. I can provide an example from a page I help maintain. From what I see here I am pretty sure that sites are closing down or pages are being culled en masse for some reason: [9]https://netpbm.sourceforge.net The ahove URL is the introductionary web page for the Netpbm software package. At the end of the page is a list of translations of the same into various languages. In early May this year I found out that out of 31 translations, 6 were not available: * Russian * Malay * Indonesian * German * Polish * Belarusian A recent survey (late November) showed that 4 more translations have disappeared: * Spanish * Urdu * Greek * Estonian Out of 31 translations 10 or 32.5% have disappeared. Only 21 remain. There must be an explanation for the rapid loss of sites and pages. Some sites hosting the translations look unrelated to system software. Netpbm is well-known and links in the official Netpbm document pages cause search engines to elevate the status of the liked pages and their links. In other words some people add the translations to their sites for SEO. One possibility I can think of is that hosting services are somehow affected by inflation, higher interest rates and staff cutbacks at IT firms. If anybody has better insight on the matter I'd very much like to learn. Thank you for reading. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [10]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [11]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discu ss ------------------------------ End of libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 164, Issue 1 *************************************************** I have not seen a speed-up of "links death". But the links I consult daily are mostly "new". Fortunately, most of the interesting links are on the Internet Archive. Sometimes, when I find a nice link, I verify that it is in the Internet Wayback Machine just in case. Best regards, Laurent Lyaudet References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 4. mailto:libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org 5. mailto:libreplanet-discuss-owner@libreplanet.org 6. mailto:afu@wta.att.ne.jp 7. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 8. mailto:2023.12.04.12.53.56.980948660@afu.wta.att.ne.jp 9. https://netpbm.sourceforge.net/ 10. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 11. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss --000000000000ef18ce060bb566a2-- --===============7786191758469266232== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNzCg== --===============7786191758469266232==--