From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D4BE1F404 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 05:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36907 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etnuO-0003RY-7O for e@80x24.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 00:16:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47327) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etlzF-00051Z-V9 for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:13:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etlzE-0005xp-Od for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]:36553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etlzE-0005xA-IQ for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:12:56 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id d206so5278800qkb.3 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:12:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=downey.net; s=dkim; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kkgA211Ti5lFlgwD2DBM9a8ztje49s+h1KI5hSJe7bs=; b=V55QZ7p6E+y/fg8vB2VMUsmmh7+oiCU8qxa7BGMNgliE9eS67Dg98noMsqILjfyOG4 Fa2EAWsuUmYCqQs+4D1hwsSAw18aZWhOcD2K3G9ZfV1Nfjhx7+TKzVJolQIH1peyJ6vP /246PxHErr6DhBJSiGJTb91Y/ZOzj6PjYo6oY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kkgA211Ti5lFlgwD2DBM9a8ztje49s+h1KI5hSJe7bs=; b=nQhECAf49kaY9dOQ+6cmNKLh7buT9qoawEA6g3DJdVKJsWREgRn3qStpie0mfiunV1 Yz53fF8LwW5fgAwtny0L1OWohT4bp6eNmlWDBUdNjJdD5UviOzlyhbYY1Y006JgHeYdc gDVINgZWBbTvLFIPc73Ya8FwbqZK+Zon6d4isd3UR+WTV/Ttn+Xq3aRd+TfINDOqINGL /0rhmMZ5FIns2N5GlqJJ3UIZKb5e44KQAGoFAgKt2T3Hg7uXlhr5pDRl6rRMZLChqxaj cb1oxHm+qk483lq5cmNWC2AyWMjWIFTnNYv3LLF2JfAvMYfDz8fXqNUNqjU9wdw3LRs2 ymaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7HLWpig/NYJnmVNgB0xqE2YfnfjsXebVmoDmDgrHgZwNW0vO0Kp Jci0Aahf/d6iQfBSG2CVr9Gnb45alqf9em0/4OuVbQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtr6o+JF4Hvz4PIu7K1vstWGJ93JUNdXVQGqhYaE9X4elIpV+vYqwSiehJ55oVBa3KKtBFqPOVVim4WDveUqMM= X-Received: by 10.55.16.39 with SMTP id a39mr2807172qkh.169.1520478774954; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:12:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.3.202 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 19:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.200.3.202 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 19:12:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Downey Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 19:12:53 -0800 Message-ID: To: Taiidan@gmx.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 00:15:32 -0500 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 Subject: Re: Purism is not free hardware X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" That Reddit post is 2+ years old, FWIW. Here's the current status of their project and their goal of getting RYF certification: https://puri.sm/learn/freedom-roadmap/ Michael On Mar 7, 2018 18:30, "Taiidan@gmx.com" wrote: > I wonder how much money it took for the FSF to finally sell out. > > "Grassroots: > Purism, makers of fine free hardware" > > https://libreplanet.org/2018/sponsors > > Purism isn't free hardware, their computers use standard non-owner > controlled intel chipsets/cpus with a not actually disabled ME and all the > hardware initiation is performed by binary blobs. > > Here is a post that explains it better than I can. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem > _laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/ > > Purism pretends it is impossible to make free hardware and claim that they > are doing the best they can, so let us contrast them to companies like > Raptor Computing Systems (TALOS 2) and Bunny Labs (Novena) who have > produced real owner controlled libre hardware. > > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss