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X-Received-From: 76.10.157.38 Subject: Re: Videos from LibrePlanet X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Skvortsov wrote: > When we do talks at local meetings, we try to avoid this and try to > capture slides and speaker at the same shot and if possible with > external microphone for a good sound quality. And this is why I would have loved to see the demo screen for Spencer Krum's presentation on "How to stream with free software"! As it was, just listening and seeing Spencer didn't help me much, and I don't think his demo screen was recorded. Providing live mixing of speaker and slides adds to the complexity of having a presentation; that level of sophistication really needs someone to manage the A/V in addition to the presenter. And our LUGs don't have the hardware to combine a screen capture from one laptop and video from another source. How can such a thing be done in software? Perhaps a VNC screengrab plus a USB video source? - --Bob. On 2018-03-30 05:32 PM, Andrey Skvortsov wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-03-30 15:17, Bob Jonkman wrote: >> I understand completely. I've given some talks to local LUGs, >> Software Freedom Day, and the KW Linuxfest -- There's usually >> someone taking video from an audience point-of-view, I have my >> laptop cam pointing at me (the "nostrilcam"), and I capture my >> screen to show the slides or the demo I'm presenting. Often >> there's a separate soundtrack from the venue PA system. But it's >> an overwhelming amount of work to put these into a single video >> with picture-in-picture to show the stage and the screencap. So >> I try to publish all the raw video as soon as possible on >> Archive.org, in the hopes that someone with more time and talent >> than me will do all the post-production to create a slick video. >> >> Looking forward to getting an integrated video from LibrePlanet, >> but I know how much work it is. > > I completely agree, that merging and syncing several video and > audio streams is a lot of work! When we do talks at local meetings, > we try to avoid this and try to capture slides and speaker at the > same shot and if possible with external microphone for a good sound > quality. In this case we don't have to do any post-production. > > I think the best case would be to capture speaker and slides in > one video stream and audio stream at the same time. So almost no > post-production is needed. But sometimes it's not possible because > of the venue. > > If it's not possible to capture all in one video stream, then it > maybe possible to have two synchronous video streams: speaker and > slides (screencast or just another video capture) and audio track. > And just put them as is into media container without doing much of > post-production to avoid extra work. And everyone could select > video stream he wants. This shouldn't bring too much extra work to > organizers I think. > > > To have slides in PDF/ODF/TEX from speaker is always a good thing. > But I see that in a lot of cases speakers just forget to get > organizers slides afterwards and they are lost (see previous LP > recordings). Therefore I wouldn't rely on that and have at least > captured slides on video. > > Of course, thank all LP organizers for a lot of useful work!!! > > >> On 2018-03-30 01:10 PM, John Sullivan wrote: >>> I think ultimately, people want both overlaid and separate. >>> We're working to improve the system each year, but have been >>> focused on consistency and quality, which is challenging >>> enough. There is probably also a way to take the PDFs and >>> overlay them on the video, if anyone wants to volunteer :) >>> >>> Hopefully people have links to source files in the PDFs. That >>> could also be added to the video metadata, if, again, anyone >>> wants to help. Our small and oversubscribed conference team >>> won't be able to do these things this year. We do keep track of >>> the ideas for the future, and we did make some slide gathering >>> improvements this year. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >>> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >>> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >>> >> >> >>> - -- >> Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 >> SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ >> Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting >> GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss > mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > - -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlq/DqgACgkQuRKJsNLM5er13wCbBOwcS7gHh7n4+e3RnKYFx0QJ N18AnROcfLdUbvtU7It1E4ic2axqstcD =GJY3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss