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X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" And why should this be a law? How about leaving it to users to decide what they are okay with and what they are not? To use your analogy, if a transport company asks for a lot of information, and users are okay with that, who are you to say what they should or shouldn't do? I am not a celebrity, nor someone famous nor rich. I really do not want a law like yours and I do *not* want it as a worldwide treaty. Please leave me my freedom, thanks. -Ali On 8/20/18 7:20 PM, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote: > I however do not want "insights" period. > > How about something much - a law that says companies can't (ab)use the > data of paid users without their explicit opt-in and can't provide any > conditionals or anything more than minor incentives for opting in. > > minor incentives - eg: $10/mo ok but $100 not ok. > > > More laws: > * The right to be forgotten where when one establishes an account at say > a bank, doctors office, store, airline etc they can simply check a box > that says "delete my information after X amount of time" > > * Only the bare minimum of data required to provide a service should be > collected - there is NO reason a transport company needs your name to > transport you or a cable company your name to give you cable as long as > you pay for your cable modem and pre-pay for services. > > > All three should be a worldwide treaty - WILL be a worldwide treaty when > some day the celebrity leaks become relentless and the shiny people > demand change. > > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss