watchkin.com (was: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew)

watchkin.com (was: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew)

[Dmitry Alexandrov]

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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UbQ1kc1vQU or https://watchkin.com/y/7UbQ1kc1vQU
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGF17TbbBcE

I’m curious, what this watchkin.com link is for?  I expected, that this is some SaaS like invidio.us — a substitute for mpv+youtube-dl / weboob / minitube / newpipe / etc to watch youtube.com videos avoiding running nonfree scripts, but it’s not: it still contains nonfree scripts.

So why to provide it?  And why only for the first video?

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Do not substitute youtube.com links (was: watchkin.com)

[Dmitry Alexandrov]

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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> * Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> [2019-10-12 16:01]:
>> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UbQ1kc1vQU or https://watchkin.com/y/7UbQ1kc1vQU
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGF17TbbBcE
>> 
>> I’m curious, what this watchkin.com link is for?  I expected, that this is some SaaS like invidio.us — a substitute for mpv+youtube-dl / weboob / minitube / newpipe / etc to watch youtube.com videos avoiding running nonfree scripts, but it’s not: it still contains nonfree scripts.
>> 
>> So why to provide it?  And why only for the first video?
>
> You are right. Make it non-javascript link and send it to me.

Well, I already mentioned one service that might used as a substitute for a free youtube.com client — invidio.us, so the links will be:

— https://invidio.us/watch?v=7UbQ1kc1vQU
— https://invidio.us/watch?v=ZGF17TbbBcE

But actually I would advice _against_ providing them instead of original youtube.com ones.

Not only because that’s a SaaS(S) [1] with all negative implications, like a chance of being shut down at any moment in future.  But also because it provides practical inconvenience for the free software users right now: if your system is configured to opens youtube.com links in a player of your choice, it probably does not do the same for any of those SaaS client.  Moreover, I don’t think it is possible at all to make, say, NewPipe or SkyTube (free youtube.com clients for *droid-like OS) to handle invidio.us links without patching and recompiling them.

[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html

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