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From: John Sullivan <johns@fsf.org>
To: Henry Jensen <hjensen@gmx.de>
Cc: Stefan Nagy <stefan.nagy@posteo.net>,
	"Taiidan@gmx.com" <Taiidan@gmx.com>,
	libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Purism is not free hardware
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 12:41:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d10dxypk.fsf@wjsullivan.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180309090622.3f4d9cd7@subnote.jensen.local> (Henry Jensen's message of "Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:06:22 +0100")

Henry Jensen <hjensen@gmx.de> writes:

> Am Fri, 09 Mar 2018 01:33:12 +0100
> schrieb John Sullivan <johns@fsf.org>:
>
>> "Taiidan@gmx.com" <Taiidan@gmx.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Again I still can't understand as to why purism gets so much air
>> > time on the FSF website and the tech news media yet legitimately
>> > libre hardware gets none.  
>> 
>> 
>> > "PureOS" is simply a debian clone used to peddle non-free laptops
>> > and now purism has obtained an implied endorsement from the FSF.  
>> 
>> That is not an accurate description. PureOS is an endorsed
>> distribution because it has committed to upholding the Guidelines for
>> Free System Distribution. It made a number of important changes from
>> Debian in order to achieve that.
>
> PureOS uses the same Linux kernel as Debian (i.e. not Linux-Libre),
> which some people regard as a bug, because log messages like this
> appear:
>
> iwlwifi: 0000:03:00.0 firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
>
> which indicates, that the kernel is looking for a non-free firmware
> blob. By reading this message in the log file a user could learn about
> it and be tempted to install this non-free software.
>

Yes, we have been revisiting this question and will publish our analysis
soon on the mailing list you linked to..

(For everyone's understanding, the nonfree firmware is not present on
the system; it is an issue of potentially recommending/suggesting.)

-john

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-09 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-07 22:04 Purism is not free hardware Taiidan
2018-03-08  3:12 ` Michael Downey
2018-03-08 16:05 ` Stefan Nagy
2018-03-08 17:26   ` Stefan Nagy
2018-03-08 23:33   ` John Sullivan
2018-03-09  0:16     ` Taiidan
2018-03-09  0:33       ` John Sullivan
2018-03-09  0:35         ` Taiidan
2018-03-27 22:07           ` Taiidan
2018-03-09  8:06         ` Henry Jensen
2018-03-09 11:41           ` John Sullivan [this message]
2018-03-09 12:40             ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira

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