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From: Leah Rowe <info@minifree.org>
To: Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adfeno@hyperbola.info>,
	libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: ethical edtech edit-a-thon
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 07:48:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <826dd9d0-b345-7915-e111-861915b1dba4@minifree.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <740093cf-aa72-da50-6035-abfffbecf838@hyperbola.info>


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i like this iniative too. as someone who regularly has to help people in
education (I sell a lot of freedom laptops to people in education: both
students and teachers) I get questions about education software a lot.

kudos to you for setting up this directory.

On 30/03/2019 20:04, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> Em 11/03/2019 20:18, Erin Glass escreveu:
>> I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech
>> <https://ethicaledtech.info/wiki/Meta:Welcome_to_Ethical_EdTech>' wiki and
>> edit-a-thon on April 3 that may be of interest to the free software
>> community.
> 
> Nice initiative indeed. Awesome! :D
> 
> As for the definitions of free/libre software and the other one, open
> source, I think that the graph and explanation in [1] and [2] provide
> insights on when those differ. The page in [2] does a wonderful job on
> explaining in abstract what I'll say in this message, Besides, in the
> field of *strategies* or *tactics* as to how to foster or advance
> software freedom, the two groups also differ strongly, as can be seen in
> various works such as [3][4][5][6]. Particularly, [6] explains why you
> might see some people debating or advocating for stronger and auto
> upgradable copyleft licenses such as AGPL-3.0-or-later for every kind of
> work.
> 
> Technically, free/libre software activists and open source proponents
> can work together in a given project, but they'll mostly disagree in
> regards to which aspects to priorize in the balance between freedom of
> the software for the very-end-user vs. other characteristic (e.g.: ease
> of use, graphical friendliness, speed, adoption by other people).
> 
> In practice, Open Source Initiative's definition of open source seems to
> enable works with digital handcuffs to fit in nicely to that category.
> These handcuffs are ways that the copyright holders found to go beyond
> the copyright law so as to take some already-given freedoms of the
> software away from the very-end-user, measure also known for being
> para-copyright[7]. Thus, the non-compliants can take a GPL-2.0-only work
> and make derivated works that are distributed as cryptographically
> signed execuables in smartphones/tablets and even in the engine control
> units that decide how a car will develop/work while being driven, in
> devices or vehicles that do signature checks to see if the cryptographic
> keys and the binary/executable match.
> 
> This is such a problem that there are people in the free/libre software
> movement advocating for the use of strong and auto upgradable copyleft
> licenses (the AGPL-3.0-or-later comes to mind).
> 
> Trademarks (simply put: the registered logos and friendly names that
> appear everywhere) are also accepted in the free/libre software movement
> as long as the trademark *policies* don't take away the essential
> freedoms of the software. Patents (which describe how to do something in
> detail) are also accepted to some extent, with the advantage that the
> GPL-3.0-or-later and AGPL-3.0-or-later provide better legal provisions
> in favor of both the original copyright holders and the very-end-users[8].
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html
> [2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-open-overlap.html
> [3] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
> [4]
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/when-free-software-isnt-practically-superior.html
> [5] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html
> [6] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html
> [7] https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-790009.5
> [8]
> https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-930009.14
> [9] https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-830009.9
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-03  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-11 23:18 ethical edtech edit-a-thon Erin Glass
2019-03-12 18:08 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-03-12 19:54   ` Erin Glass
2019-03-12 20:39     ` Nathan Schneider
2019-03-12 22:52       ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-03-13  3:45         ` Nathan Schneider
2019-03-13  4:40           ` Aaron Wolf
2019-03-13 14:05             ` overthefalls
2019-03-13 14:22               ` Michael McMahon
2019-03-13 14:30               ` Aaron Wolf
2019-03-16  2:25                 ` overthefalls
2019-03-16  3:12                   ` Aaron Wolf
2019-03-16  4:22                     ` bill-auger
2019-03-13 18:39             ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-03-13 21:11               ` Aaron Wolf
2019-03-14 22:57               ` no go for FLO, was " D. Joe
2019-03-13 16:25           ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-03-14 23:01           ` D. Joe
2019-03-13 20:20       ` Quiliro Ordonez
2019-03-16 17:32       ` Pen-Yuan Hsing
2019-03-18  8:30         ` Ineiev
2019-03-18  8:53           ` Pen-Yuan Hsing
2019-03-30 18:48         ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-03-30 20:04 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-03-30 21:00   ` Aaron Wolf
2019-04-03  6:48   ` Leah Rowe [this message]
     [not found] <mailman.5.1552579202.16054.libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
2019-03-15  1:34 ` Prof Andrew A. Adams

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