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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.230 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 Subject: Re: ethical edtech edit-a-thon X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9047446110781813272==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --===============9047446110781813272== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eHCMbCj1podCWKoYK62sD269CeUh5rwMD" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --eHCMbCj1podCWKoYK62sD269CeUh5rwMD From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Message-ID: <740093cf-aa72-da50-6035-abfffbecf838@hyperbola.info> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Em 11/03/2019 20:18, Erin Glass escreveu: > I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech > ' wiki = and > edit-a-thon on April 3 that may be of interest to the free software > community. Nice initiative indeed. Awesome! :D As for the definitions of free/libre software and the other one, open source, I think that the graph and explanation in [1] and [2] provide insights on when those differ. The page in [2] does a wonderful job on explaining in abstract what I'll say in this message, Besides, in the field of *strategies* or *tactics* as to how to foster or advance software freedom, the two groups also differ strongly, as can be seen in various works such as [3][4][5][6]. Particularly, [6] explains why you might see some people debating or advocating for stronger and auto upgradable copyleft licenses such as AGPL-3.0-or-later for every kind of work. Technically, free/libre software activists and open source proponents can work together in a given project, but they'll mostly disagree in regards to which aspects to priorize in the balance between freedom of the software for the very-end-user vs. other characteristic (e.g.: ease of use, graphical friendliness, speed, adoption by other people). In practice, Open Source Initiative's definition of open source seems to enable works with digital handcuffs to fit in nicely to that category. These handcuffs are ways that the copyright holders found to go beyond the copyright law so as to take some already-given freedoms of the software away from the very-end-user, measure also known for being para-copyright[7]. Thus, the non-compliants can take a GPL-2.0-only work and make derivated works that are distributed as cryptographically signed execuables in smartphones/tablets and even in the engine control units that decide how a car will develop/work while being driven, in devices or vehicles that do signature checks to see if the cryptographic keys and the binary/executable match. This is such a problem that there are people in the free/libre software movement advocating for the use of strong and auto upgradable copyleft licenses (the AGPL-3.0-or-later comes to mind). Trademarks (simply put: the registered logos and friendly names that appear everywhere) are also accepted in the free/libre software movement as long as the trademark *policies* don't take away the essential freedoms of the software. Patents (which describe how to do something in detail) are also accepted to some extent, with the advantage that the GPL-3.0-or-later and AGPL-3.0-or-later provide better legal provisions in favor of both the original copyright holders and the very-end-users[8]= =2E [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html [2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-open-overlap.html [3] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html [4] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/when-free-software-isnt-practically-superi= or.html [5] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html [6] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html [7] https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-79000= 9.5 [8] https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-930009.14= [9] https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech10.html#x13-83000= 9.9 --eHCMbCj1podCWKoYK62sD269CeUh5rwMD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlyfy98ACgkQyNbhUgHunaGqdgD9Eo8NkWJ6YJdNL5cRCj0fRxrZ bQoLlDSiEP7NFGDcgHEBANI+Ta3RUUPJ8/bxvTlFfLcoZkUnlV0U9xqU7Z6BMsM3 =gw+t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eHCMbCj1podCWKoYK62sD269CeUh5rwMD-- --===============9047446110781813272== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss --===============9047446110781813272==--