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Are there any blockers I can help with? >>> Disclaimer: I am NOT saying to use Riot or any other proprietary=20 >>> client=2E >>>=20 >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I was curious about you saying that Riot is not free software=2E I just >> checked their repository in github and it uses the Apache License=2E I'= m >> working as a consultor for a company that it's building its product >> using Matrix (synaps) and Riot, and I though both of them were free=20 >> (as >> in freedom) software with a permissive license=2E >> -- > ------KXG7F8UDHN9CZ5EU1MW68ADX2US10O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I can add that riot for desktop is built on top of Electron, which is non free. Librement, Le 24 juillet 2020 10:37:14 GMT+02:00, Msavoritias a écrit : Hi, That was my assumption too. Especially as there is a request for packaging riot in the Guix Libreplanet page. From what I have heard it is basically the non-free addons and the Google Captca that seems to be the problem. The first is just a site that we don't have to connect or remove stuff from there. The second one they are working towards replacing it and I think we could patch it and remove it if needed. Regards MSavoritias On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 19:21, Jonathan Sandoval wrote: Msavoritias writes: Also I think having a bunch of semi-official channel using Non-FreeSoftware like Riot does't help anybody. I would like to ask is it in the works to have an official FSF/GNU server in the future? Are there any blockers I can help with? Disclaimer: I am NOT saying to use Riot or any other proprietary client. Hi, I was curious about you saying that Riot is not free software. I just checked their repository in github and it uses the Apache License. I'm working as a consultor for a company that it's building its product using Matrix (synaps) and Riot, and I though both of them were free (as in freedom) software with a permissive license. -- ------KXG7F8UDHN9CZ5EU1MW68ADX2US10O-- --===============0914785208316364141== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNz --===============0914785208316364141==--