From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8065208E3 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 04:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnHP2-0000Sj-Ih for e@80x24.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:48:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnHOm-0000ST-Ld for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:48:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnHOh-0006BX-RC for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:48:12 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:45322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnHOh-0006B8-Bs for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:48:07 -0400 Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07C751A14C6; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 04:48:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1504154886; bh=ajiG7k4mglVt2YDlJXTgWlcaeoZ3CJNEgyW+ZHJ9LqM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jrj3/JEvi/jDA6cRsZSkfavlPKnEO0dnc2zr84f0JIbtju2wsqbhzXwaCfKAn08gQ 4FhRe5UpTrz/jQgQpvddgDnAn6CdqchaCQiZBvJ2ktvOpbbq0/UMzopEKtxajvwZj9 Chcpb22ejK9cdn8s1mhrXeMFqOMWXgZLOgi7s6Fk= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: wolftune@riseup.net) by (cotinga) with ESMTPSA id 9F60C839F0 To: Mike Gerwitz References: <7d0a3e56-f761-184c-5e51-8557dd043d56@lyberta.net> <4ed9c9e1-d8ec-df29-5700-70c6c246a02f@riseup.net> <537d3ec3-b054-75e0-0d11-cfa1f1ac43b8@lyberta.net> <736b7bc7-c823-cc48-f9be-717cac9b9526@riseup.net> <84af8f6e-0dfb-36b2-a8af-1adee31ef6e7@lyberta.net> <3c23d877-cff9-5dc8-e6fa-0bb234097ae3@riseup.net> <87wp5k8ptx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Aaron Wolf Message-ID: <4d46ee30-edda-8c55-bc11-1a7bfbfe9d9a@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:48:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87wp5k8ptx.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 198.252.153.129 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 Subject: Re: Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3829961949683305329==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --===============3829961949683305329== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RerPR4DWfnKEUwMdqLk9KmetDlgBEO0fG" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --RerPR4DWfnKEUwMdqLk9KmetDlgBEO0fG From: Aaron Wolf To: Mike Gerwitz Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Message-ID: <4d46ee30-edda-8c55-bc11-1a7bfbfe9d9a@riseup.net> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base References: <7d0a3e56-f761-184c-5e51-8557dd043d56@lyberta.net> <4ed9c9e1-d8ec-df29-5700-70c6c246a02f@riseup.net> <537d3ec3-b054-75e0-0d11-cfa1f1ac43b8@lyberta.net> <736b7bc7-c823-cc48-f9be-717cac9b9526@riseup.net> <84af8f6e-0dfb-36b2-a8af-1adee31ef6e7@lyberta.net> <3c23d877-cff9-5dc8-e6fa-0bb234097ae3@riseup.net> <87wp5k8ptx.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <87wp5k8ptx.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/30/2017 06:54 PM, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 09:19:13 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> So if someone downloads such combined work and start a server, do the= y >>> have to publish the complete source code? What if they modify it? >>> >> >> Yes, the AGPL terms apply to the whole work, *all* the code *as runnin= g >> on the server* (i.e. including any modifications) must be published to= >> those who have access to the server. >=20 > But only if modifications are made. >=20 What do you mean "only if modifications are made"? Can you cite the part of the license you read that way? I certainly had the impression that, just like the GPL, the AGPL required making the source available whenever conveying, regardless of modified status. It is *not* okay under AGPL to have a situation like this (at least as I believe at this time and want to be true): 1. I publish code under AGPL 2. You get my code 3. My website that publishes the source disappears 4. You publish the software via giving people access over a server, make no modifications, and refuse to share the source. Under the GPL or AGPL, anyone doing the conveying is responsible for providing the source code. 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