From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6D71F670 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46686 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP5FF-00053Q-Vi for e@80x24.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:21:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP5Ey-00053C-Eo for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:20:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:36578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP5Ew-0001pI-2e for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:20:44 -0500 Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4K7MtC4BJxzF6tT; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 08:20:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1646151635; bh=ecek5afsPbYgY4jgemyvPp5AQbIJwK1uMvq6BjRaAmk=; h=Date:To:Cc:References:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:From; b=EJzVhgPjwi2P8b/taGY+NnZBmtx2dnhhC1R1tHJ8g67udEl23zNWRDC48enryWV/+ 0pNZ0x0xS7DYGuGdSuHoqVKmNJ1Ej9EjMLHb1VCdWMiVc+b099x309XilWT33qJQo2 ESt3Ikne1LJaiOdiQfocqOYYZZMoXHJdQO7uFIGY= X-Riseup-User-ID: 2820D33EACAD824ED35922609EDBBE8BEF804121E385FE0807561553288397AB Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4K7MtB1K9rz1yQd; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 08:20:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2f426d13-f49f-1c3f-eb02-32167e2ddabd@riseup.net> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 08:20:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Jean Louis , Valentino Giudice , gregor Cc: Arthur Torrey , LibrePlanet-discuss References: <333679145.1046174.1645724639817@connect.xfinity.com> <359f461c-9dac-f5f7-d440-dcf747a4d119@gmail.com> <13F4411F-83E8-498C-A5AF-1E468C289971@gnu.support> From: Aaron Wolf Subject: Re: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? In-Reply-To: <13F4411F-83E8-498C-A5AF-1E468C289971@gnu.support> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=wolftune@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" VGhlcmUgaGFzIGJlZW4gYSBsb3Qgb2Ygb3ZlcnJlYWN0aW5nIHRvIGEgbWlub3IgcG9zdCBoZXJl LgoKSSB3aWxsIHJlYWRpbHkgYWdyZWUgdGhhdCBJIHdhcyBzaW1wbHkgd3Jvbmcgd2hlbiAqSSog KHBlcnNvbmFsbHksIEkgCnJlcHJlc2VudCBubyBvcmdhbml6YXRpb24gaGVyZSkgc3VnZ2VzdGVk IHRoYXQgdGhlIEZTRiBjb3VsZCBtYWtlIGEgCnN0YXRlbWVudCBhYm91dCB3YXIuIFRoZXJlJ3Mg YSBkZWdyZWUgdG8gd2hpY2ggdGhlIG9yZyBjYW4gc2F5IHNvbWUgCnRoaW5ncywgYnV0IGluZGVl ZCBpdCBpcyBhIG1pc3Npb24tZHJpdmVuIG9yZ2FuaXphdGlvbiB0aGF0IHNob3VsZCBub3QgCnRh a2Ugc2lkZXMgaW4gdW5yZWxhdGVkIHBvbGl0aWNhbCBkZWJhdGVzLgoKVGhhdCBzYWlkLCBEZXZp biBkaWRuJ3QgdGFrZSBzaWRlcyBpbiBhbnkgc2Vuc2Ugb3Igc2F5IGFueXRoaW5nIAppbmFwcHJv cHJpYXRlIG9uIGJlaGFsZiBvZiB0aGUgRlNGLiBUaGUgb25seSBpbnRlbnRpb24gb2YgaGlzIG1l c3NhZ2UgCndhcyB0byBzYXkgZXNzZW50aWFsbHksICJGU0Ygd2lsbCBjb21wbHkgd2l0aCBhbnkg bGVnYWwgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnRzIAppbXBvc2VkIG9uIGl0IiB3aXRob3V0IGV2ZW4gc3VnZ2VzdGlu ZyB0aGF0IGFueSBsZWdhbCByZXF1aXJlbWVudHMgYXJlIAphcHBsaWNhYmxlIGF0IHRoaXMgdGlt ZS4gVGhlIGlkZWEgdGhhdCBEZXZpbidzIG1lc3NhZ2UgbWVhbnQgYW55dGhpbmcgCm90aGVyIHRo aW5nIHRoaXMgaXMgcHVyZSBtaXN1bmRlcnN0YW5kaW5nLgoKVGhlIGdpc3Qgb2YgbXkgb3JpZ2lu YWwgcGVyc29uYWwgbWVzc2FnZSB3YXMgc2ltcGx5IHRvIGFzc2VydCB0aGUgbWFpbiAKaWRlYSB3 aGljaCBJIHN0aWxsIGJlbGlldmU6IHRoYXQgZnJlZSBzb2Z0d2FyZSBvcmdhbml6YXRpb25zIGFu ZCAKZGV2ZWxvcGVycyBjYW4gc3RhdGUgb3BpbmlvbnMgaW5kZXBlbmRlbnRseSBvZiBsZWdhbCBh bmQgbGljZW5zaW5nIAp0ZXJtcy4gSW4gb3RoZXIgd29yZHMsIHdoaWxlIEkgd2FzIGNsYXJpZnlp bmcgdGhhdCBzb2Z0d2FyZSBmcmVlZG9tcyBkbyAKbm90IGFuZCBzaGFsbCBub3QgZGlzY3JpbWlu YXRlIGFtb25nIHVzZXMgYW5kIHVzZXJzLCB0aGF0IGRvZXMgbm90IGluIAppdHNlbGYgYmxvY2sg YW55b25lIGZyb20gZXhwcmVzc2luZyByZXF1ZXN0cyBhbmQgb3BpbmlvbnMgYWJvdXQgdXNlcyBh bmQgCnVzZXJzLgoKSW4gb3RoZXIgd29yZHMsIEkgY2FuIHZlcnkgd2VsbCBzYXkgdGhhdCBJIGRv bid0IGxpa2UgYSBwYXJ0aWN1bGFyIHVzZSAKb3IgdXNlciBvZiBzb21lIHNvZnR3YXJlIHdpdGhv dXQgdGhhdCB0YWtpbmcgYXdheSB0aGUgZnJlZWRvbXMgb2YgdGhhdCAKdXNlci4gU2ltaWxhcmx5 LCBGU0YgY291bGQgcG90ZW50aWFsbHkgc2F5IHRoYXQgYSBwYXJ0aWN1bGFyIGNvcnBvcmF0aW9u IAppcyBvdmVyYWxsIGFjdGluZyBpbiBvcHBvc2l0aW9uIHRvIHNvZnR3YXJlIGZyZWVkb20gYW5k IHRoYXQgRlNGIHRha2VzIAp0aGUgcG9zaXRpb24gb2YgYXNraW5nIHRoYXQgY29ycG9yYXRpb24g dG8gZm9yZ28gYWxsIHVzZSBvZiBmcmVlIApzb2Z0d2FyZS4gSSdtIG5vdCBzYXlpbmcgRlNGICpz aG91bGQqIG1ha2Ugc3VjaCBhIHN0YXRlbWVudC4gSSdtIGp1c3QgCnNheWluZyB0aGF0IEZTRiAq bWF5KiBtYWtlIHN1Y2ggYSBzdGF0ZW1lbnQgd2l0aG91dCBpdCBoYXZpbmcgYW55IGVmZmVjdCAK b24gdGhlIGFjdHVhbCBmcmVlZG9tcyBvZiB0aGF0IGNvcnBvcmF0aW9uIHRvIHVzZSBmcmVlIHNv ZnR3YXJlLgoKSW4gc2hvcnQ6IHBvbGl0aWNhbCBvcGluaW9ucyBhcmUgaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQgb2Yg c29mdHdhcmUgZnJlZWRvbXMuIApQb2xpdGljYWwgb3BpbmlvbnMgbWF5IGJlIGV4cHJlc3NlZCBh cHByb3ByaWF0ZWx5ICh3aGljaCBpcyB0eXBpY2FsbHkgCippbmFwcHJvcHJpYXRlKiBmb3IgRlNG IGlmIHRoZSBvcGluaW9uIGlzIHVucmVsYXRlZCB0byB0aGUgbWlzc2lvbikuIEFuZCAKRGV2aW4g ZGlkbid0IGV2ZW4gZXhwcmVzcyBhbnkgb3BpbmlvbiBhYm91dCBhbnl0aGluZy4gSGUgb25seSBl eHByZXNzZWQgCnRoYXQgRlNGIGlzIHBheWluZyBhdHRlbnRpb24gdG8gc2FuY3Rpb25zIGluIG9y ZGVyIHRvIGRldGVybWluZSB3aGV0aGVyIAphbnkgbGVnYWwgcmVzdHJpY3Rpb25zIGFmZmVjdCBG U0YsIGFuZCBpZiBzbywgRlNGIHdpbGwgY29tcGx5IHdpbGwgdGhlIGxhdy4KCkFhcm9uCgpPbiAy MDIyLTAyLTI4IDIyOjA5LCBKZWFuIExvdWlzIHdyb3RlOgo+IEkgaGF2ZSBhc2tlZCBvbiB0aGlz IGxpc3QgdGhlIEZTRiByZXByZXNlbnRhdGl2ZSB0byBsaXN0IHJlZmVyZW5jZXMgb2Ygc2FuY3Rp b25zIHRoYXQgYXBwbHkgdG8gRlNGLiBOb25lIHNvIGZhciBoYXMgYmVlbiBzaG93bi4KPiAKPiBT byB3aGljaCBzYW5jdGlvbiBleGFjdGx5IGlzIHJlbGV2YW50IHRvIEZTRj8gVGhhdCB0aGV5IGFy ZSBub3QgYWxsb3dlZCB0byBnaXZlIFB1dGluIHRoZSBtZW1iZXJzaGlwIGNhcmQ/Cj4gCj4gCj4g Cj4gT24gTWFyY2ggMSwgMjAyMiA0OjM3OjM3IEFNIFVUQywgVmFsZW50aW5vIEdpdWRpY2UgPHZh bGVudGluby5naXVkaWNlOTZAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKPj4+IG1ha2VzIG1lIHNhZCwgc2Vl aW5nIGhvdyBGU0YgcnVzaGVzIHRvIGJlICJwb2xpdGljYWxseSBjb3JyZWN0IiBpbgo+PiB0aGUK Pj4+IHdvcmxkIHJ1biBieSBwcm9wYWdhbmRhIG1hY2hpbmVzLgo+Pgo+PiAiUG9saXRpY2FsbHkg Y29ycmVjdCIgZm9yIGRvaW5nIHdoYXQsIGV4YWN0bHk/IExpdGVyYWxseSBjb21wbHlpbmcKPj4g d2l0aCBzYW5jdGlvbnM/Cj4+IERvbid0IHRoZXkgbGVnYWxseSBoYXZlIHRvIGRvIHRoYXQ/Cj4+ Cj4+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4+IGxp YnJlcGxhbmV0LWRpc2N1c3MgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0Cj4+IGxpYnJlcGxhbmV0LWRpc2N1c3NAbGli cmVwbGFuZXQub3JnCj4+IGh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMubGlicmVwbGFuZXQub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlz dGluZm8vbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzcwo+IAo+IAo+IEplYW4KPiAKPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo+IGxpYnJlcGxhbmV0LWRpc2N1c3Mg bWFpbGluZyBsaXN0Cj4gbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcKPiBodHRw czovL2xpc3RzLmxpYnJlcGxhbmV0Lm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2xpYnJlcGxhbmV0LWRp c2N1c3MKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCmxp YnJlcGxhbmV0LWRpc2N1c3MgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CmxpYnJlcGxhbmV0LWRpc2N1c3NAbGlicmVw bGFuZXQub3JnCmh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMubGlicmVwbGFuZXQub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8v bGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzcwo=