From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E65C1F667 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djCN0-0000DG-9H for e@80x24.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:37:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djCMe-0000Cf-0s for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:37:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djCMa-0005HG-To for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:37:08 -0400 Received: from 4.mo179.mail-out.ovh.net ([46.105.36.149]:35018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djCMa-0005Db-Mm for libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:37:04 -0400 Received: from player168.ha.ovh.net (b6.ovh.net [213.186.33.56]) by mo179.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD695A7D3 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 00:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [84.250.249.108] (dsl-hkibng31-54faf9-108.dhcp.inet.fi [84.250.249.108]) (Authenticated sender: question@nominal-animal.net) by player168.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6473442006B; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 00:37:00 +0200 (CEST) To: Andy Oram References: <9c5bcec9-9b3f-12be-d254-2579351d0c9b@nominal-animal.net> From: Nominal Animal Message-ID: <243bb7ed-354f-2e83-c404-0ef4b6ba2793@nominal-animal.net> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 01:36:59 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 13658573247241861853 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -51 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeelkedruddthedgudejjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenogfuuhhsphgvtghtffhomhgrihhnucdlgeelmd X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 46.105.36.149 Subject: Re: UTF-8 banned from being default in Chrome, Firefox X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" On 20/08/17 00:29, Andy Oram wrote: > I think the situation for each browser may be more complicated than your email > suggests, I admit I am quite aggravated by this issue. Apologies. I should have condensed my point to the fact that users *no longer* can set UTF-8 as the character set to be used if neither the server or the document itself specifies a character set. This used to be possible, but is now deliberately disabled. Perhaps others might take a look at the developer discussion around the changes, and provide a more balanced summary of the situation? This functionality was in Firefox until four years ago, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815551 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1071816 https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/commit/5ac2a5be04f63fc1a2ee87f2c4536064072aa71d and in Chrome until this year: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=597488 https://goo.gl/47cdcb Much appreciated, Nominal Animal _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss