From: Denver Gingerich <denver@ossguy.com>
To: Msavoritias <marinus.savoritias@disroot.org>
Cc: Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adfeno@hyperbola.info>,
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Matrix communication protocol.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:27:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200730162745.GE25289@ossguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1596125074.1189.0@disroot.org>
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote:
> I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and Fdroid but
> couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or otherwise.
What is wrong with Conversations?
https://f-droid.org/app/eu.siacs.conversations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations
> Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for non-tech people.
> IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been popular by
> now.
> And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to message my
> self.
> Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free Software
> (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by the wider community.
XMPP is also actively developed and has many free software implementations (including some that are AGPLv3, like https://jmp.chat/ ).
If you want/need a gratis account that supports all the important features, see https://dismail.de/register.html .
> Also the clients seem to decently designed.
See above - is there something Conversations is missing versus the Matrix client(s) for Android?
> I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free Software users,
> like it or not we need a good presentation with good interface. otherwise we
> risk to fall into obscurity.
> No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users.
I definitely agree. However, I think we need to look at which protocols are likely to stand the test of time. Matrix is very new, and the server implementation(s?) is extremely resource-heavy. XMPP has been around for over 20 years and has multiple lightweight server implementations.
Denver
https://jmp.chat/
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-23 21:56 Matrix communication protocol Msavoritias
[not found] ` <87eep1bw5k.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-07-24 8:37 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-25 7:07 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-07-24 14:47 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-07-29 16:25 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 4:37 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-07-30 16:04 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 16:21 ` Ali Reza Hayati
2020-07-30 19:30 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 16:27 ` Denver Gingerich [this message]
2020-07-30 19:51 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-31 3:00 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-07-31 8:58 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-31 9:12 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-07-31 19:20 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on freenode)
2020-08-04 13:43 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-08-04 21:03 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 17:25 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 17:34 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-08-01 23:01 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-03 17:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-08-04 7:09 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-04 20:41 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-03 21:45 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-04 7:08 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-04 20:52 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 23:35 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-04 13:07 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-08-04 13:16 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
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