If you ever considered using Riot (newly renamed to Element), please note that Riot/Element has Electron and Electron is considered nonfree. Electron has Chromium in it but it doesn't include all licenses of Chromium so it's a violation of software freedom. On 7/30/20 8:34 PM, Msavoritias wrote: > Dino is not available for Android it seems though. On desktop there are > choices. > I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and Fdroid > but couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or otherwise. > I understand that tech people don't care about UI/UX but we need some > nice looking clients. > Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for non-tech > people. > IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been popular > by now. > And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to message > my self. > Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free > Software (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by the > wider community. Also the clients seem to decently designed. > I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free Software > users, like it or not we need a good presentation with good interface. > otherwise we risk to fall into obscurity. > No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users. > MSavoritias > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 04:37, Denver Gingerich > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 06:25:36PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:47, Adonay Felipe Nogueira via > libreplanet-discuss <[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: > Note: I don't speak for FSF, nor for GNU. Em 23/07/2020 18:56, > Msavoritias escreveu: I would like to ask is it in the works to have > an official FSF/GNU server in the future? Are there any blockers I > can help with? FSF already has XMPP service for their associate > members. I guess it comes down to personal preference but for me I > didn't see the same features in all the clients I tried and almost > all of them were badly designed. This doesn't help with convincing > people to use XMPP. > > Where did you go to determine which XMPP clients to try? And which > clients did you try? I believe there should be better resources to > allow people to more easily find the best XMPP clients - I'm trying to > do my part with the recommendations at [2]https://jmp.chat/#clients > (for the free software service I run). In short, use Gajim or > Conversations. If you want fancy design but less features, then Dino. > Hopefully we can make these recommendations more widely-known so that > people don't give up on XMPP. It's an excellent protocol and is very > easy to use and featureful if you have the right client. Denver > [3]https://jmp.chat/ > > References > > 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > 2. https://jmp.chat/#clients > 3. https://jmp.chat/ > > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > -- Ali Reza Hayati www.alirezahayati.com