From: Ali Reza Hayati <hayati@riseup.net>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Matrix communication protocol.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:51:52 +0430 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ce44447-060f-ecd8-3578-b898c40fa3c5@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1596125074.1189.0@disroot.org>
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If you ever considered using Riot (newly renamed to Element), please
note that Riot/Element has Electron and Electron is considered nonfree.
Electron has Chromium in it but it doesn't include all licenses of
Chromium so it's a violation of software freedom.
On 7/30/20 8:34 PM, Msavoritias wrote:
> Dino is not available for Android it seems though. On desktop there are
> choices.
> I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and Fdroid
> but couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or otherwise.
> I understand that tech people don't care about UI/UX but we need some
> nice looking clients.
> Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for non-tech
> people.
> IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been popular
> by now.
> And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to message
> my self.
> Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free
> Software (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by the
> wider community. Also the clients seem to decently designed.
> I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free Software
> users, like it or not we need a good presentation with good interface.
> otherwise we risk to fall into obscurity.
> No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users.
> MSavoritias
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 04:37, Denver Gingerich <denver@ossguy.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 06:25:36PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:47, Adonay Felipe Nogueira via
> libreplanet-discuss <[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
> Note: I don't speak for FSF, nor for GNU. Em 23/07/2020 18:56,
> Msavoritias escreveu: I would like to ask is it in the works to have
> an official FSF/GNU server in the future? Are there any blockers I
> can help with? FSF already has XMPP service for their associate
> members. I guess it comes down to personal preference but for me I
> didn't see the same features in all the clients I tried and almost
> all of them were badly designed. This doesn't help with convincing
> people to use XMPP.
>
> Where did you go to determine which XMPP clients to try? And which
> clients did you try? I believe there should be better resources to
> allow people to more easily find the best XMPP clients - I'm trying to
> do my part with the recommendations at [2]https://jmp.chat/#clients
> (for the free software service I run). In short, use Gajim or
> Conversations. If you want fancy design but less features, then Dino.
> Hopefully we can make these recommendations more widely-known so that
> people don't give up on XMPP. It's an excellent protocol and is very
> easy to use and featureful if you have the right client. Denver
> [3]https://jmp.chat/
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> 2. https://jmp.chat/#clients
> 3. https://jmp.chat/
>
>
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-23 21:56 Matrix communication protocol Msavoritias
[not found] ` <87eep1bw5k.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-07-24 8:37 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-25 7:07 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-07-24 14:47 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-07-29 16:25 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 4:37 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-07-30 16:04 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 16:21 ` Ali Reza Hayati [this message]
2020-07-30 19:30 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-30 16:27 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-07-30 19:51 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-31 3:00 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-07-31 8:58 ` Msavoritias
2020-07-31 9:12 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-07-31 19:20 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on freenode)
2020-08-04 13:43 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-08-04 21:03 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 17:25 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 17:34 ` Denver Gingerich
2020-08-01 23:01 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-03 17:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-08-04 7:09 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-04 20:41 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-03 21:45 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-04 7:08 ` Adrien Bourmault (neox on Freenode)
2020-08-04 20:52 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-01 23:35 ` Msavoritias
2020-08-04 13:07 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
2020-08-04 13:16 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
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