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envelope-from=paulsutton@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss Reply-To: Paul Sutton Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2181742749169758445==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --===============2181742749169758445== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wiN6JRPiAfqZfWA9HtTzLPY2DfCUwhSCS" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wiN6JRPiAfqZfWA9HtTzLPY2DfCUwhSCS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1fyZyj1spMlkTUBHeaMPWbdACs9uZA22x"; protected-headers="v1" From: Paul Sutton To: Dennis Payne , libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Message-ID: <16fa0f09-4c18-336a-351d-30f896696af6@disroot.org> Subject: Re: Global Game Jam References: <3aa1bbf9-c8e5-ca36-8780-b4c3ab3ed28b@disroot.org> In-Reply-To: --1fyZyj1spMlkTUBHeaMPWbdACs9uZA22x Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060137E5ED28E979C137D558" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060137E5ED28E979C137D558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/01/2022 14:52, Dennis Payne wrote: > I mentioned on the FreeGameDev site that the game jam portion of > Liberated Pixel Cup was not a success and someone disagreed with me. > The problem was we had different definitions of success. I want games > that I can still play now and perhaps even see improvements. He looks > at it as they produced some interesting games. >=20 > You can see the same with the global game jam. It has produced > thousands of games. But I can't say I've played any of them. I'm sure > there are some great games in there but I don't know any that have > risen out of it. >=20 > As a game developer, I like game jams. I think a game jam associated > with LibrePlanet and have a session dedicated to showing off the games > would be fun. With two kids I've found it hard to participate in many > jams but I would like to do more. If one person plays my game and likes= > it that a win for me (and that one person may even be me). >=20 > I just don't see a game jam significantly increasing the number of good= > free software games. Maybe you can structure a game jam in such a way > to bring that about. FreeGameDev suggested maybe focusing on modding > games. The Linux Game Tome tried to get people to fix up a game for a > month. That lead to SuperTuxKart fork from TuxKart. However that effort= > didn't really succeed and only became the success it is after it failed= > and new developers resurrected the game. Could you do a game jam where > everyone builds level for a game and the best are worked together in > the end? I think it would be difficult to weave them together and not > have duplicate elements in the levels. But I think it might be an > interesting thing to try. >=20 > On Sat, 2022-01-01 at 12:01 +0000, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss > wrote: >> Hi >> >> Following on from the suggestion of a Libre Game Jam, there is an >> event >> coming up >> >> https://globalgamejam.org/ >> >> This appears to be along similar lines to what was suggested, so may >> be >> good for some ideas. >> >> Paul I am not a developer, the only thing I have really done is made levels=20 for rocks and diamonds, I have however made some videos on how to do thi= s. https://personaljournal.ca/rocksanddiamonds/videos Level sets can be integrated together as they are numbered as level001,=20 level002 etc, so what you would do is rename your levels so they are=20 sequenced in such a way when both directories are merged, you have more=20 levels. So perhaps the first step is to figure out what game genre people of=20 different age groups are interested in, then find ways for us to teach=20 or help each other with level design / creation. Then set about making=20 what we do have better. Then move on to modding and game making. To make mods for Minetest, it seems you need to learn Lua, which is=20 fine. I have made a blog post https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/minetest-foss-minecraft-clone I am trying to pull together information, links to books, resources /=20 tutorials. forums, API info etc to help people. It seems the info / games are there, but as RMS said it is about=20 discoverability, something that seems rather lacking in a lot of cases. 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