I am well aware. Personally I rejected it because its not Copyleft. MSavoritias On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 20:51, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > If you ever considered using Riot (newly renamed to Element), please > note that Riot/Element has Electron and Electron is considered > nonfree. > > Electron has Chromium in it but it doesn't include all licenses of > Chromium so it's a violation of software freedom. > > On 7/30/20 8:34 PM, Msavoritias wrote: >> Dino is not available for Android it seems though. On desktop >> there are >> choices. >> I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and >> Fdroid >> but couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or >> otherwise. >> I understand that tech people don't care about UI/UX but we need >> some >> nice looking clients. >> Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for >> non-tech >> people. >> IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been >> popular >> by now. >> And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to >> message >> my self. >> Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free >> Software (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by >> the >> wider community. Also the clients seem to decently designed. >> I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free >> Software >> users, like it or not we need a good presentation with good >> interface. >> otherwise we risk to fall into obscurity. >> No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users. >> MSavoritias >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 04:37, Denver Gingerich >> > >> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 06:25:36PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:47, Adonay Felipe Nogueira via >> libreplanet-discuss <[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> > wrote: >> Note: I don't speak for FSF, nor for GNU. Em 23/07/2020 18:56, >> Msavoritias escreveu: I would like to ask is it in the works >> to have >> an official FSF/GNU server in the future? Are there any >> blockers I >> can help with? FSF already has XMPP service for their associate >> members. I guess it comes down to personal preference but for >> me I >> didn't see the same features in all the clients I tried and >> almost >> all of them were badly designed. This doesn't help with >> convincing >> people to use XMPP. >> >> Where did you go to determine which XMPP clients to try? And >> which >> clients did you try? I believe there should be better resources >> to >> allow people to more easily find the best XMPP clients - I'm >> trying to >> do my part with the recommendations at >> [2] >> (for the free software service I run). In short, use Gajim or >> Conversations. If you want fancy design but less features, then >> Dino. >> Hopefully we can make these recommendations more widely-known so >> that >> people don't give up on XMPP. It's an excellent protocol and is >> very >> easy to use and featureful if you have the right client. Denver >> [3] >> >> References >> >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> >> >> > > -- > Ali Reza Hayati > > www.alirezahayati.com > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > >