From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.0.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:4830:134:3::11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7011F4DD for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 00:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dmrF5-000246-1m for e@80x24.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:52:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36385) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dmrEa-00023l-4C for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:51:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dmrEX-0002IN-2o for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:51:56 -0400 Received: from plebeian.isacdaavid.info ([178.62.204.135]:60964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dmrEW-0002Hz-OL for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:51:53 -0400 Received: from [172.16.4.139] (unknown [148.218.118.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: isacdaavid@isacdaavid.info) by plebeian.isacdaavid.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAF0BA00A8; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 00:51:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=plebeian.isacdaavid.info; s=plebeian; t=1504054309; bh=0HL/XmGZPvDeh3P3bmRZykags2Og1vQIcWPLYzNcVlc=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=sqHRVngZCss6MVHbZ5enUAljIU2pUyRagnuqw22LJfpshLQepplw/jkWLq6EG3ZDA P9mM4Y5LmMEF86zRdwtQuvUb41UrBG/QcIeINbswE36KaBVeBf+e+sdTx6ENAJtnGa qFCOM/USkfgh+Og46Za7j+yw8olC3tWJarkITdiE= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:51:04 -0500 From: Isaac David To: Aaron Wolf Message-Id: <1504054264.14912.1@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> In-Reply-To: <9e05b304-53ad-2fb7-02ef-9947632215ee@riseup.net> References: <7d0a3e56-f761-184c-5e51-8557dd043d56@lyberta.net> <4ed9c9e1-d8ec-df29-5700-70c6c246a02f@riseup.net> <537d3ec3-b054-75e0-0d11-cfa1f1ac43b8@lyberta.net> <736b7bc7-c823-cc48-f9be-717cac9b9526@riseup.net> <1504049451.14912.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <9e05b304-53ad-2fb7-02ef-9947632215ee@riseup.net> X-Mailer: geary/makepkg~g00718198 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 178.62.204.135 Subject: Re: Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" Aaron Wolf wrote : > I can write a new copyleft license today that is explicitly > one-directionally compatible with the AGPLv3, and no change to AGPLv3 > is needed for that to work. the only scenarios i can conjure in which this would be possible are trivial ones: one where your copyleft license is unequivocally (for the courts) a one-to-one semantic copy of the AGPLv3, or what is more likely, one where it's in effect a dual license (mutually exclusive licenses, one of which is the AGPLv3). that's what CC-BY-SA-4.0 and copyleft-next do. this is because the AGPLv3, being a copyleft license itself, demands that derived works carry exactly the same terms. no more, no less: > 5. Conveying Modified Source Versions. > [...] You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this > License [...] > [...] This License gives no permission to license the work in any > other way [...] there's no other way a licensee combining one work under your hypothetical copyleft license and another under the AGPLv3 can comply with the AGPLv3. it would mean subjecting the AGPLv3 part to your licence terms in addition to the AGPLv3. so until the second copyleft license corresponds you, it wouldn't matter if your license were explicitly accepting of it. that said, it would be great to add an open-ended permission to combine with future versions of the AGPL (or GPL), if you ever were to write a new copyleft license. that way the authors of the AGPL could decide whether to open the gates of compatibility, in which directions, under what conditions, etc; allowing the existing body of AGPLv3+ stuff to become retroactively compatible with all works under your license in a single move. -- Isaac David GPG: 38D33EF29A7691134357648733466E12EC7BA943 _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss