From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,BODY_8BITS, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3211F454 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 20:53:43 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:to:from:cc:reply-to:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= default; b=oDOIp3N7+YXMwIvfjNAk2tyfJljo/0NK85klz9Ij/DlkSe/MpmgMF nR+4NEhg+zvFGOxx62uhGWJuiC9DvLHgW1H3CPdcTi8g2c6zNTjO0sfdLycEHSSC Mss/vwCq9tboTX7wMRUDB/wiFppkZ65kYW2f6hrmAFUuqIG28ulzCk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:to:from:cc:reply-to:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; s=default; bh=KFXjtA4AbvdqbjByvXtO8nz5pQ4=; b=Xzl+GFc3qeVEXCU7uvk0Y0WiNjxK qHb7p/hgXo8HTcVv0SwaT/xFEF1Xo9UTHxvPKS0At14GcFFop1Y+IYrhjv5EmCty 09yP8kKbSSdKYLKeEE5S5nk3Farzq+XM991OTTWX9Rrsn00ngyjPKPxeLRy0Rx6V zzIaETheLWsWsZI= Received: (qmail 84164 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 2019 20:53:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 84148 invoked by uid 89); 8 Nov 2019 20:53:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-HELO: mail4.protonmail.ch Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 20:53:33 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kobylkin.com; s=protonmail; t=1573246415; bh=eRIkNdqkhYGyEyC0G1USPY8Z3aLy2dQ+BynLNw598Xs=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=hpPMkHpg5CR6Ow1HGAnRZzoffUn2dfmUb9Ib5aHAonwcIKtgg6Re2G7uHwGf78K/P HWfFBx1vrBpJyxWrBInlJEPKWy4SEwxWiBUgts5BS2ysiUUyfR1uehEU8BPBOu20V1 XO/kYgjtoYaPm/1A5zGbdBWeBBybE8E8+S1s87kA= To: Florian Weimer From: "Diego (Egor) Kobylkin" Cc: "libc-locales\\@sourceware.org" , "libc-alpha\\@sourceware.org" Reply-To: "Diego (Egor) Kobylkin" Subject: Re: [PATCH] locale/C-translit.h.in: Greek -> ASCII transliteration table [BZ #12031] Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87mud640ja.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> References: <15ng4NDEFJeZhF1FBBL6X6CB9aroE4hyWVKzRshoOYhTmf-Cj2U64VAczBw5-eTCL0PqD_Urr7Fjv0P1bZMtTIwmoE7kiaGesv6e6KJhB_U=@kobylkin.com> <87mud640ja.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="---------------------497aef4b79582ddd46c6487bb1746794"; charset=UTF-8 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) -----------------------497aef4b79582ddd46c6487bb1746794 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------b617f3c3907f93fa9dd34250286ef6ce -----------------------b617f3c3907f93fa9dd34250286ef6ce Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Yes, I have received an explicit suggestion to drop the Tonos, (it showing= = that the vowel is a monophthong, not diphthong?). I assume it doesn't alte= r = the pronunciation. Unfortunately the Expert didn't want to be explicitly = referenced so included here on BCC. >Ich h=C3=A4tte da noch einen "=C3=84nderungswunsch": ich w=C3=BCrde >TONOS (Akzent) und DIALYTIKA (zeigt, dass Vokal nicht Teil eines >Zwielautes ist) gar nicht wiedergeben. Also: > >0388 =CE=88: E (nicht E`) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER EPSILON WITH TONOS >0389 =CE=89: E (nicht E`) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA WITH TONOS >03CB =CF=8B: y (nicht y`) GREEK SMALL LETTER UPSILON WITH DIALYTIKA >03CD =CF=8D: y (nicht y`) GREEK SMALL LETTER UPSILON WITH TONOS > >... And also there was a confirmation that substituting HOOK SYMBOLs with ` sh= ould be fine. = >Hingegen ist Ihre Wiedergabe des HOOK SYMBOLs mit ` keine schlechte >Idee. (Die Funktion dieser Zeichenvariante ist mir unbekannt.) I'm totally transparent as to how these questions should be handled. In th= e sense that if somebody has a reason to transliterate in any different way I woul= d be = fine with that. Bests, Diego (Egor) Kobylkin =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original M= essage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Friday, November 8, 2019 8:43 PM, Florian Weimer wro= te: > * Diego Kobylkin: > = > > AFAIK there are many versions of transcription tables for Greek to ASC= II > > transcription. Given that current iconv logic can only translit one to= many > > but not many to many symbols we take the "Standard" part of > > the Romanization_of_Greek#Modern_Greek table [3] > = > I've got a question about this entry (and related ones): > = > +"\x0389" "E" # GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA WITH TONOS > = > Do you have a source for this? Your references generally transcribe =CE=B7= > as i. 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