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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Adhemerval Zanella Netto" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "YunQiang Su" <yunqiang.su@cipunited.com>,
	"Xi Ruoyao" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	aurelien@aurel32.net, "Jiaxun Yang" <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	"YunQiang Su" <syq@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Define in_int32_t_range to check if the 64 bit time_t syscall should be used
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:27:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eadadfd4-397b-4aef-8061-7fa22303766f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e823c53-a93f-8ecf-6e83-84b1b78057c8@linaro.org>

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, at 13:51, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> On 08/11/22 09:28, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> Sigh, I have added the use of 64 bit syscall if required for some
> sysmbols because I assumed that 32 bit time_t syscall would be always
> available.  This is small optimization to avoid issuing a lot of
> 64 bit syscall, specially for syscall like futex.
>
> But if kernel does indeed assume that COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is a supported
> configuration I think we will need to roll out the optimization and
> always issue the 64 bit time_t syscalls anyway.  From a glibc point of
> view it should not matter much besides some small overhead for newer
> glibc running on older kernels (we might add a global to disable the
> 64-bit call if kernel does not support, as we do for some specific
> syscalls).

It's possible that I have misread what glibc does at the moment,
as I see there are checks for __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS in the
same code path.

To clarify: I think an important configuration is one where
an embedded system assumes both kernel and userspace are
always modern and only support time64. This means
CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is disabled in the kernel, and glibc
is built to only support a modern enough kernel to assume
time64 support is always available. I have not tested whether
this works at the moment, but it probably does not require
a large rework if there is something still missing. Sorry
for having hijacked this thread if this is already supported.

If glibc is configured to support older linux-3.2 and includes
the time32 fallbacks for that, it's not unreasonable to require
CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME=y for those. It would be
good to document this dependency, or even have an early
runtime check similar to the "kernel too old" error that
glibc produces when there is a version mismatch.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-08 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04  1:39 [PATCH] Use in_int32_t_range to check need 64bit syscall YunQiang Su
2022-11-08  4:49 ` [PATCH v3] Define in_int32_t_range to check if the 64 bit time_t syscall should be used YunQiang Su
2022-11-08 10:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 11:17     ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 11:33       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 11:39         ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 11:55           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 12:51             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 13:27               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2022-11-08 13:49                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 14:07                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 14:27                     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 19:47                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha
2022-11-08 23:29                         ` Rich Felker
2022-11-17 17:35   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Libc-alpha

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