From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC8141F463 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 22:15:33 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=MaF+/EPEwE/PDzSq eAJboDHFM7iJT7jjjoHlkCQiKJXh1utB2YpHfofzkY8MSgN4n/fiBwxVi4oj8dVo bt/ryzcr2IIQJU0a7zB0mwt54/eN/XRtuYA6XLKEeGeqN9mIfmnuJHX4XLi8+Akk cSqwJgn8kaG9E5Nhk7RXsOV9hXk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=Q9tJ12Xeh8tkbHUjP0UgEZ lgOdI=; b=Ap0/rn6WNq5TYEM2csd3KjPiSK6ggEDAJUEMulgxoxLGRkxJKHDEQ/ HHPcl4+AkXiCcap3ui+LOPRAEh0tM25TXA43prFck3Rvcpl9KNAZZTeWM5Alm+df RsO43cQ7IqQ5TjUo5CU/aH+EvcCcOrZPftlBVNtUPdRTxOwyv1sAA= Received: (qmail 4464 invoked by alias); 7 Jan 2020 22:15:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 4455 invoked by uid 89); 7 Jan 2020 22:15:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-HELO: us-smtp-1.mimecast.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1578435327; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NjMZehN50HAebzsB+FqYR3UGL752qau9YpPu6aVhEwI=; b=LI14W/zZVFnVPV4Fo2q0QcYJmxFs1y5Q2PUbm5L6H0TLfMVDUv5tGOuayX8WFF6BTi0FCO jgE6PqolNBibiHWhbGqUEzQX1XVUdhDuXQMgUZfpXnckHb5aR2bdtSbusinGzt34u+20vt Ijm9pMY21dYl19MHR05oDvOU1LplR0k= Subject: Re: 2.31: glibc master is now kinda, sorta, frozen To: cltang@codesourcery.com, Siddhesh Poyarekar , GLIBC Devel Cc: Adhemerval Zanella , arjun@redhat.com References: <8ec518f7-50a1-3120-7af8-26281a57fe74@mentor.com> From: Carlos O'Donell Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 17:15:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/7/20 4:07 AM, Chung-Lin Tang wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2020/1/6 11:46 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >> On 06/01/20 9:11 pm, Chung-Lin Tang wrote: >>> as Carlos' review suggests, and what I'm working on right now, can this >>> still >>> make 2.31 as a non-default tunable option? Since the new algorithm does >>> have >>> some slight behavior difference, it may be better to make available ear= lier >>> than later for users to try. >>> >>> I will try to update the patches and respond to Carlos' review in detai= l >>> within >>> the week. >> >> I'm afraid that's going to be too long and too late.=C2=A0 The change is >> non-trivial and it needs more time to settle in master.=C2=A0 Please do >> continue the review process though since, like I said, you can always >> backport to 2.31 after the release.=C2=A0 New tunables can be backported >> since they're not considered part of ABI. >> >> Siddhesh >> > Okay I see, thanks for letting me know. I will still try to update the pa= tches > for review soon. If I can help please tell me. I agree with Siddhesh in that I think we can backport this change. Keep in mind that when this langs in master we'll immediately pull it into Fedora Rawhide for testing (within the week). This is really the gold stand= ard for making sure we didn't break anything :-) Even Florian's changes to NODELETE which seemed innocuous revealed all sort= s of latent expectations from Firefox, Chrome, and Calibre. --=20 Cheers, Carlos.