From: Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PoC] malloc: use wfcqueue to speed up remote frees
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:48:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfcc89cb-d8e5-2e4a-761a-8108c8a1309b@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d97c2927-4082-ce54-f45e-166d5835d308@efficios.com>
On 2023-01-17 14:05, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2023-01-17 01:42, Eric Wong wrote:
>> Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> - Adding urcu as a build-time dependency is not acceptable for
>>>>> bootstrap, instead we would bundle a copy of urcu and keep it
>>>>> in sync with upstream. Would that make your work easier?
>>>
>>> Eric Wong wrote:
>>>> Yes, bundling that sounds great. I assume it's something for
>>>> you or one of the regular contributors to work on (build systems
>>>> scare me :x)
>>>
>>> Yes, that is something we'd have to do.
>>
>> Hi, bringing this topic from 2018 up again (+Cc Mathieu):
>> https://inbox.sourceware.org/libc-alpha/c061de55-cc2a-88fe-564b-2ea9c4a7e632@redhat.com/T/
>>
>> I'm wondering if URCU-in-glibc is still on the table. I'm also
>> considering an learning C11 atomics and deriving a standalone
>> wfcqueue w/o URCU atomics.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I'm very much interested to contribute portions of liburcu to glibc. I
> think what we would need at this point is to document where we see that
> liburcu infrastructure can improve glibc, and create a gradual
> integration roadmap based on priorities. We should identify the
> stake-holders interested in seeing this done, and then we can discuss
> the time-frame and resources available for this project.
>
> That being said, I suspect we'd want to cover a few pieces of technology
> in this list, namely:
>
> - Restartable Sequences (rseq system call),
> - membarrier system call,
> - liburcu and libside [1,2] RCU implementations,
> - liburcu data structures (e.g. wfcqueue).
Here is a PoC implementing liburcu wfcqueue with C11 atomics:
https://review.lttng.org/c/userspace-rcu/+/9271 PoC: wfcqueue: remove dependencies on liburcu headers
Feedback is welcome!
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> I would be tempted to go for an approach closer to the RCU
> implementation I have done in the libside project for glibc, because it
> supports having multiple RCU grace period domains per process, which
> allows to nicely split the locking dependencies into sub-domains, and
> therefore lessen the chances of deadlocks due to nesting of a
> global-domain RCU read-side/synchronize_rcu, and locking (e.g. mutexes).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
> [1] https://github.com/efficios/libside/blob/master/src/rcu.c
> [2] https://github.com/efficios/libside/blob/master/src/rcu.h
>
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-18 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-31 8:49 [RFC/PoC] malloc: use wfcqueue to speed up remote frees Eric Wong
2018-07-31 12:16 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-07-31 23:18 ` Eric Wong
2018-08-01 4:41 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-08-01 6:23 ` Eric Wong
2018-08-01 7:01 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-08-01 9:26 ` Eric Wong
2018-08-02 21:38 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-01-17 6:42 ` Eric Wong via Libc-alpha
2023-01-17 19:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha
2023-01-18 15:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha [this message]
2023-01-18 19:12 ` Eric Wong via Libc-alpha
2023-01-18 19:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha
2023-01-18 20:05 ` Eric Wong via Libc-alpha
2023-01-18 14:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha
2023-01-18 14:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via Libc-alpha
2018-08-08 10:40 ` Eric Wong
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