From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joseph Myers Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lib.glibc.alpha Subject: Re: Update copyright dates not handled by scripts/update-copyrights [committed] Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 15:23:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0d577e78-86dc-5c4d-7afc-f4ff6e3a5eb9@redhat.com> <20170101095738.GH16617@vapier> <1483369707.13143.80.camel@redhat.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1483370683 14415 195.159.176.226 (2 Jan 2017 15:24:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Cc: Mike Frysinger , Florian Weimer , To: Torvald Riegel Original-X-From: libc-alpha-return-76521-glibc-alpha=m.gmane.org@sourceware.org Mon Jan 02 16:24:39 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: glibc-alpha@blaine.gmane.org DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=iD7nz pnO5C3PPaRT0S1Ppce6kZgi+rp0T9vY3//h0KHUCSpQPCRCyjklcfZ03Bf58evSp rcQlaRIwCCN+Yp7YEP0mz49gG3hFMbfu4AW5O8hT07LfE1ssY/wa/bxGWKDEXXga lYPfmnqXZ04EQlqitOdurn6sz1HFH6Mdr46nPY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; s=default; bh=mVWdVvI+Ohe 4aXYCx6UXuzm0BJU=; b=S/WTmrs0BxG8C5cR6mtWi0WhzhS07eYzQUQhOzht74a cm+gTC1M9cjVX+kFuTxJyaEUGYxqotsdBh7hQwuZEIpfkPDT4SsO2LleZsHtHjKn FSln/I0PB6KJaMj7nbCcJPsKaWg0wTRLym/i/wU/lvvFN2QKBHubihuVUYmGCeyA = Mailing-List: contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Original-Sender: libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-HELO: relay1.mentorg.com In-Reply-To: <1483369707.13143.80.camel@redhat.com> X-ClientProxiedBy: svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) To svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lib.glibc.alpha:68876 Archived-At: Received: from server1.sourceware.org ([209.132.180.131] helo=sourceware.org) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cO4TU-0002xR-EM for glibc-alpha@blaine.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2017 16:24:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 94227 invoked by alias); 2 Jan 2017 15:24:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 94072 invoked by uid 89); 2 Jan 2017 15:24:26 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Torvald Riegel wrote: > On Sun, 2017-01-01 at 04:57 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > even better: let's delete them and be done. > > Yes, please. The old logs are routinely useful for identifying the logical changesets for changes before the move to git. The newer logs are a matter of the GNU Coding Standards. That is, if you don't want to maintain information about "what" changed in that particular form, you should be persuading the GCS maintainers to allow just logging descriptions of what and why changed at the logical level rather than the level of individual files and functions (in the case where a version control system provides tracking of the "what" ... not all GNU packages have public version control). Absent such a GCS change, we can still move to automatic generation but that requires various infrastructure work such as I outlined. -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com