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From: Sergey Bugaev <bugaevc@gmail.com>
To: Joseph Myers <jsm@polyomino.org.uk>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, bug-hurd@gnu.org,
	 Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/23] aarch64-gnu port
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 20:57:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN9u=HeNpBvR66AiK2UkLo=5U4acaD-VRSeY5ojwNWt4+WbxUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <deffc54b-b8d4-fdb7-c87a-eeb7c8346e5f@polyomino.org.uk>

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 8:30 PM Joseph Myers <jsm@polyomino.org.uk> wrote:
> I think the same principle applies for ports to new (architecture, Hurd)
> pairs as for new (architecture, Linux) pairs: the relevant code needs to
> be in upstream mainline of all components on which glibc build-depends
> before the port can go into glibc (and thus before the symbol versions for
> the port can be determined) - and at the point where it's ready to go in,
> a corresponding build-many-glibcs.py entry should be added as part of the
> patch series.  Parts of <https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/NewPorts> may
> be applicable, though that's more oriented to the case where the
> architecture support itself is entirely new.
>
> You can of course do refactors of existing files not specific to
> aarch64-gnu, in preparation for the port, before then, to reduce the size
> of the eventual patch series proposing adding the port to glibc.

Certainly; and I should've been more clear about this: I don't expect
this to get merged until there's a gnumach port. And the port
development, and the feedback I'm hoping to get, will likely require
changes/tweaks to the Mach headers/APIs (as I've said, my versions
I've developed this against are more like preliminary sketches than
final APIs set in stone) and the corresponding changes to this port,
so I don't expect it to be merged until that all is settled.

Some generic improvements could be merged now as you're saying, but
other than that, I'm posting these patches both to gather feedback
from both Hurd and glibc communities, and to enable others to build
it, experiment with it, and build more stuff on top of it (for
example, can we get all of the Hurd building?). Symbol versions, I
have set to 2.39, but seeing how the 2.39 release is already in
progress, we'll likely need to bump this.

Sergey

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-03 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-03 17:14 [RFC PATCH 00/23] aarch64-gnu port Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [PATCH 01/23] hurd: Add some missing includes Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 20:43   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 21:08     ` Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 21:24       ` Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 21:35         ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 21:00   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [PATCH 02/23] hurd: Declare _hurd_intr_rpc_msg* with protected visibility Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 21:00   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/23] Allow glibc to be compiled without EXEC_PAGESIZE Sergey Bugaev
2024-03-11 16:13   ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-25 11:58     ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-25 12:24       ` Sergey Bugaev
2024-04-10 11:57         ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-15 12:53           ` Sergey Bugaev
2024-04-22 21:01         ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [PATCH 04/23] mach: Drop some unnecessary vm_param.h includes Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 21:00   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/23] hurd: Disable Prefer_MAP_32BIT_EXEC on non-x86_64 for now Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [PATCH 06/23] mach: Drop SNARF_ARGS macro Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 21:00   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/23] hurd: Pass the data pointer to _hurd_stack_setup explicitly Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:47   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/23] hurd: Drop x86-specific assembly from init-first.c Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:48   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/23] hurd: Make init-first.c no longer x86-specific Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:48   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/23] hurd: Only init early static TLS if it's used to store stack or pointer guards Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:48   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/23] hurd: Initializy _dl_pagesize early in static builds Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:48   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/23] aarch64: Make cpu-features definitions not Linux-specific Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-04 22:48   ` Samuel Thibault
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 13/23] aarch64: Add dl-procinfo Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 14/23] aarch64: Allow building without kernel support for BTI Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 15/23] mach: Add a basic AArch64 port Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 16/23] hurd: " Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 17/23] hurd: Implement TLS on AArch64 Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 18/23] hurd: Implement longjmp for AArch64 Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 19/23] Add FPE_FLTIDO Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 20/23] hurd: Add an AArch64 signal implementation Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 21/23] htl: Implement some support for TLS_DTV_AT_TP Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 22/23] htl: Add an AArch64 implementation Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 23/23] hurd: Add expected aarch64-gnu abistlists Sergey Bugaev
2024-01-03 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 00/23] aarch64-gnu port Joseph Myers
2024-01-03 17:57   ` Sergey Bugaev [this message]
2024-03-11 16:10   ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-11 13:47 ` H.J. Lu
2024-03-11 15:38   ` Sergey Bugaev
2024-03-11 14:14 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov

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