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From: "H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: V6 [PATCH] sysconf: Add _SC_MINSIGSTKSZ/_SC_SIGSTKSZ [BZ #20305]
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:59:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOr7D_m11dw9QB0UG1=poG1_2r0B87sP3xw0EBZ7AimsDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201020091912.GS32292@arm.com>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 2:19 AM Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 02:32:35PM -0700, H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:08 AM Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 04:57:28AM -0700, H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > > diff --git a/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86/dl-minsigstacksize.h b/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86/dl-minsigstacksize.h
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > > +/* Emulate AT_MINSIGSTKSZ with XSAVE. */
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +static inline void
> > > > > > +dl_check_minsigstacksize (void)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +  /* NB: Default to a constant MINSIGSTKSZ.  */
> > > > > > +  _Static_assert (__builtin_constant_p (MINSIGSTKSZ),
> > > > > > +           "MINSIGSTKSZ is constant");
> > > > > > +  /* Return if AT_MINSIGSTKSZ is provide by kernel.  */
> > > > > > +  if (GLRO(dl_minsigstacksize) != MINSIGSTKSZ)
> > > > > > +    return;
> > > > >
> > > > > Couldn't the kernel actually yield MINSIGSTKSZ or a smaller value, say,
> > > > > if running on hardware that doesn't have AVX-512?
> > > > >
> > > > It is OK for MINSIGSTKSZ > AT_MINSIGSTKSZ.  For _SC_SIGSTKSZ_SOURCE,
> > > > dynamic MINSIGSTKSZ is defined as sysconf (_SC_SIGSTKSZ) which is
> > > >
> > > > MAX (SIGSTKSZ, MAX (MINSIGSTKSZ, sysconf (_SC_MINSIGSTKSZ)) * 4)
> > > >
> > > > and dynamic MINSIGSTKSZ is always > MINSIGSTKSZ.
> > > >
> > > > > We might want a separate flag to indicate whether we obtained a value
> > > > > from the auxv, rather relying on MINSIGSTKSZ having this magic meaning.
> > > >
> > > > AT_MINSIGSTKSZ is the only way for GLRO(dl_minsigstacksize) != MINSIGSTKSZ.
> > >
> > > Yes, but reading AT_MINSIGSTKSZ doesn't guarantee that
> > > GLRO(dl_minsigstkszsize) != MINSIGSTKSZ, no?
> > >
> > > What if the value reported for AT_MINSIGSTKSZ is actually the same as
> > > MINSIGSTKSZ?  This could be the case on some arches in future even if
> > > it's never true today.  But the code here assumes that AT_MINSIGSTKSZ
> > > wasn't available in this case, and reverts to a fallback guess.
> >
> > Since the fallback tracks what the kernel does, if AT_MINSIGSTKSZ
> > is 2KB, the fallback will be 2KB or slightly larger.
>
> Well, I guess that should be safe.  It still feels a bit like it works
> by accident, but I may be being too paranoid.

Let me work on that.

>
> Separate question:
>
> How are we going to raise awareness of this issue?  We do want people to
> at least be aware that they should consider migrating.
>
> Ideally _GNU_SOURCE should imply _SC_SIGSTKSZ_SOURCE -- if not now, then
> eventually.  Is this likely to be too disruptive?

I guess so.

> Alternatively we could emit warnings for use of MINSIGSTKSZ and SIGSTKSZ
> even without _SC_SIGSTKSZ_SOURCE, while keeping the old compiletime-
> constant values in this case.

Is there a way to deprecate a constant?


-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-10 12:19 [PATCH] sysconf: Add _SC_MINSIGSTKSZ/_SC_SIGSTKSZ [BZ #20305] H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12  7:53 ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 11:04   ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 12:42     ` V4 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 13:21       ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 14:12     ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 14:37       ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 15:36         ` [libc-coord] " Rich Felker
2020-10-12 22:03 ` Joseph Myers
2020-10-13 20:32   ` V5 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-14 17:47     ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-14 18:07       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-10-19 16:30         ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-15 11:57       ` V6 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-19 15:08         ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-19 21:32           ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-20  9:19             ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-20 14:59               ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha [this message]
2020-10-20 15:22                 ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-10-20 18:19                 ` V7 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-03  3:06                   ` PING: " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-04 16:50                     ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-04 17:48                       ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 14:13                         ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 14:25                           ` Zack Weinberg
2020-11-18 14:40                             ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 15:12                               ` Zack Weinberg
2020-11-18 15:17                                 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 15:20                                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-18 17:04                                     ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 17:35                                       ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-18 17:48                                         ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-18 18:09                                         ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 14:59                                           ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 15:10                                             ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 15:39                                             ` Zack Weinberg
2020-11-19 15:51                                               ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-19 16:16                                               ` Rich Felker
2020-11-19 16:52                                                 ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 16:37                                             ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 17:29                                               ` Rich Felker
2020-11-19 17:33                                               ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2020-11-19 19:39                                                 ` Dave Martin via Libc-alpha
2020-11-20 14:08                                           ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-11-20 14:11                                             ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-20 23:13                                               ` V8 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 14:16                                                 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:05                                                   ` V9 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-22 19:41                                                     ` V10 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 13:31                                                       ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 13:57                                                         ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 13:59                                                           ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 13:58                                                       ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 14:16                                                         ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-02-02 13:08                                                           ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-25 14:34                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:06                                                   ` V8 " Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:30                                                     ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:33                                                       ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:59                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 16:04                                                           ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-01-20 15:33                                                       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-10-15 12:26       ` [PATCH] Deprecate SIGSTKSZ/MINSIGSTKSZ with _SC_SIGSTKSZ_SOURCE H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-15 19:59         ` Joseph Myers
2020-10-15 21:22           ` V2 " H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-16  0:57             ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-09 18:53             ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2021-07-09 19:34               ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-10-12 22:07 ` [PATCH] sysconf: Add _SC_MINSIGSTKSZ/_SC_SIGSTKSZ [BZ #20305] Joseph Myers

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