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From: Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	 Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	 Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	 Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	macro@wdc.com,  Zong Li <zongbox@gmail.com>,
	Zong Li <zong@andestech.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 07/20] sysdeps/gettimeofday: Use clock_gettime64 if avaliable
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:08:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKCAbMhxDLcGZuytigY+dLfbkacJxcZ27M20FT1B0aUDvQWZqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfwlar0j.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:01 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * Arnd Bergmann:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 7:21 PM Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 1:03 PM Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> > > If we want to keep
> >> > > the traditional settimeofday()/gettimeofday() behavior working, a new
> >> > > kernel interface could be added
> >> >
> >> > Let's not. That behavior was a bad idea even in the 1980s, and applications
> >> > stopped using it decades ago. It has been completely obsoleted by TZ strings.
> >>
> >> Do we think we could get away with having both functions fail (with
> >> EINVAL) whenever the tz argument is non-null?
> >
> > From my findings at Debian code search, I found code like
> >
> > struct timeval my_gettime(void)
> > {
> >      struct timezone tz_ignored;
> >      struct timeval tv;
> >      gettimeofday(&tv, &tz_ignored);
> >      return tv;
> > }
> >
> > In this case, the safer choice would be to silently ignore it.
> >
> > Another alternative would be to hide the definition of 'struct timezone'
> > in the libc headers and only leave a forward declaration.
>
> Renaming the struct timezone members might be sufficient.  Then the code
> above would still compile, but something that actually depends on the
> struct timezone data would not.

I like this idea.  We could escalate to hiding the definition later.

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-26 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-25  0:08 [RFC v2 00/20] RISC-V glibc port for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:08 ` [RFC v2 01/20] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:08 ` [RFC v2 02/20] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:08 ` [RFC v2 03/20] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 11:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 15:51     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-25 16:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26  9:07         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-26 12:36           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26 15:03             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-26 15:11               ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-26 22:49                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27  7:14                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-27  7:36                     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-26 18:58               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26 22:55                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27  7:45                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 10:35                     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27 13:32                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 14:07                         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27 14:57                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 15:23                             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27 15:45                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 16:16                                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27 21:25                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 22:08                                     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-04  0:04                                       ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-04  8:13                                         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-08  9:32                                           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-27 20:08                           ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-27 21:02                             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-08 10:49         ` Joseph Myers
2019-06-25  0:08 ` [RFC v2 04/20] include/time.h: Fix conflicting timespec types on 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 11:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 22:20     ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:08 ` [RFC v2 05/20] sysdeps/nanosleep: Use clock_nanosleep_time64 if avaliable Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  8:24   ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-25  8:59   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26 18:20     ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 06/20] sysdeps/futex: Use futex_time64 " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 11:14   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 11:26     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-25 11:41       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 12:06         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 13:32           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 07/20] sysdeps/gettimeofday: Use clock_gettime64 " Alistair Francis
2019-06-27 13:14   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-03 23:49     ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-24 20:22   ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-24 23:00     ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 12:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 17:03         ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-25 17:21           ` Zack Weinberg
2019-07-25 18:53             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-26 13:01               ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-26 13:08                 ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2019-07-25 21:23       ` Joseph Myers
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 08/20] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  8:16   ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-25 10:55   ` Zack Weinberg
2019-06-25 11:06     ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 12:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 12:10         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 13:29           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 13:39             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 13:47               ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 14:04                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 14:08                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 14:21                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 14:29                       ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-26 14:37                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26 15:48                           ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-26 16:28                             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-08 12:09                               ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-08 12:34                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-08 12:36                                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-09 22:57                                     ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-10  7:33                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-10 17:47                                         ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 15:49                                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-06-26 21:08                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27  7:33                               ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-27  8:25                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-27 10:21                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-27 11:12                                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-27 15:24                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-03 23:50                                       ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 23:51         ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 09/20] sysdeps/getrlimit: Use prlimit64 " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 11:11   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 20:45     ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 21:10       ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 23:38         ` Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 10/20] Documentation for the RISC-V 32-bit port Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 11/20] RISC-V: Use 64-bit time_t and off_t for RV32 and RV64 Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 12/20] RISC-V: Support dynamic loader for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 13/20] RISC-V: Add path of library directories " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 14/20] RISC-V: The ABI implementation " Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 15/20] RISC-V: Hard float support for the 32 bit Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 16/20] RISC-V: Regenerate ULPs of RISC-V Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 17/20] RISC-V: Add ABI lists Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 18/20] RISC-V: Build Infastructure for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 19/20] RISC-V: Fix llrint and llround missing exceptions on RV32 Alistair Francis
2019-06-25  0:09 ` [RFC v2 20/20] Add RISC-V 32-bit target to build-many-glibcs.py Alistair Francis
2019-06-25 11:15 ` [RFC v2 00/20] RISC-V glibc port for the 32-bit Florian Weimer
2019-06-25 12:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-04  8:47 ` Jim Wilson

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