From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
macro@wdc.com, Zong Li <zongbox@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:15:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a1pjB8SMFQK0MUom0m5fCSAdVZFtJyeUkCLW-u-RHC3oA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190725044009.GJ1506@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 6:40 AM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:04:53PM -0700, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:45 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me, the debate over what rusage to use should not hold
> > > up the review of the rest of that syscall.
> >
> > I'm unclear what the final decision is here. What is the solution are
> > we going to have wait4() or add P_PROCESS_PGID to waitid()?
> >
> > As well as that what is the solution to current implementations? If we
> > add wait4() then there isn't an issue (and I can drop this patch) but
> > if we add P_PROCESS_PGID then we will need a way to handle kernels
> > with waitid() but no P_PROCESS_PGID. Although my new plan is to only
> > use the waitid syscall if we don't have waitpid or wait4 so it seems
> > like this will only affect RV32 for the time being.
>
> I would really like some indication which solution will be taken,
> since it impacts choices that will need to be made in musl very soon.
> My favorite outcome would be bringing back wait4 for rv32 (and
> no-time32 archs in general) *and* adding P_PROCESS_PGID. In the short
> term, just using wait4 would be the simplest and cleanest for us (same
> as all other archs, no extra case to deal with), but in the long term
> there may be value in having rusage that can represent more than 68
> cpu-years spent by a process (seems plausible with large numbers of
> cores).
Based on the feedback from Linus and Eric, the most likely outcome
at the moment seems to be an extension of waitid() to allow
P_PGID with id=0 like BSD does, and not bring back wait4() or
add P_PROCESS_PGID.
So far, I don't think anyone has proposed an actual kernel patch.
I was hoping that Eric would do it, but I could also send it if he's
otherwise busy.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-25 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-17 0:08 [RFC v3 00/23] RISC-V glibc port for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 01/23] sysdeps/nanosleep: Use clock_nanosleep_time64 if avaliable Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:16 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-19 17:25 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-20 14:24 ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-07-22 21:14 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 02/23] sysdeps/gettimeofday: Use clock_gettime64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 7:09 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-20 3:20 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 20:54 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-17 12:43 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 12:48 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-19 22:26 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:31 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-19 17:49 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-22 15:58 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-22 21:02 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-21 4:03 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 4:20 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 11:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 22:59 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-21 7:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 12:28 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-21 14:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 17:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-21 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-21 21:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-21 23:23 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-23 0:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-23 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-23 8:28 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-23 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 0:04 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 4:40 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2019-07-25 16:06 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 17:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-25 17:30 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-13 22:22 ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-13 23:11 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 5:07 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 11:38 ` [PATCH v1 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement christian.brauner
2019-08-14 11:38 ` [PATCH v1 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group christian.brauner
2019-08-14 12:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 12:45 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 12:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 12:53 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 14:35 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 15:30 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] waitid: Add support for waiting for the current process group Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-14 16:15 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:34 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 16:55 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 17:02 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-14 18:00 ` Rich Felker
2019-08-14 20:50 ` Christian Brauner
2019-08-14 15:58 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] waitid: process group enhancement Rich Felker
2019-08-14 16:13 ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-26 23:35 ` [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 04/23] sysdeps/clock_gettime: Use clock_gettime64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:38 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:44 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 9:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 15:16 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 7:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 8:18 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 9:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 18:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-19 21:03 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 7:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-17 12:37 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 05/23] sysdeps/timespec_get: " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:08 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 7:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 8:41 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-25 20:14 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-17 12:22 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 06/23] Documentation for the RISC-V 32-bit port Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:08 ` [RFC v3 07/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit time_t and off_t for RV32 and RV64 Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 22:39 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-18 7:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-18 17:36 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-19 6:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-19 17:02 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 08/23] RISC-V: define __NR_futex as __NR_futex_time64 for 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 09/23] RISC-V: define __NR_* as __NR_*_time64/64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 10/23] RISC-V: define __NR_clock_getres as __NR_*_time64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 11/23] RISC-V: define __vdso_clock_getres as __vdso_clock_getres_time64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 12/23] RISC-V: define __vdso_clock_gettime as __vdso_clock_gettime64 " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-19 17:15 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 13/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit timespec in clock_gettime vdso calls Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 8:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 14/23] RISC-V: Support dynamic loader for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 15/23] RISC-V: Add path of library directories " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 12:20 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 16/23] RISC-V: The ABI implementation " Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 17/23] RISC-V: Hard float support for the 32 bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 18/23] RISC-V: Regenerate ULPs of RISC-V Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 19/23] RISC-V: Add ABI lists Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 20/23] RISC-V: Build Infastructure for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 21/23] RISC-V: Fix llrint and llround missing exceptions on RV32 Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 12:22 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 22:32 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 22/23] Add RISC-V 32-bit target to build-many-glibcs.py Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 0:09 ` [RFC v3 23/23] RISC-V: Use 64-bit vdso syscalls Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 5:33 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 8:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 22:23 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-17 23:42 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-18 0:01 ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-19 17:14 ` [RFC v3 00/23] RISC-V glibc port for the 32-bit Alistair Francis
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