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From: "Joshua M. Clulow via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Larry Dwyer <larryd.kbd@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Josey <ajosey@opengroup.org>,
	austin-group-l@opengroup.org, Elliot Hughes <enh@google.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: Pseudoterminal terminology in POSIX
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:29:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEwA5nKtyJTnQEXZZaiHywTpfDCprmupnCiq9kf5oupV7iG8RA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <722119e5-9047-7c47-0d1c-2afeb946d5ca@gmail.com>

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 01:33, Michael Kerrisk man-pages via
austin-group-l at The Open Group <austin-group-l@opengroup.org> wrote:
> On 8/9/20 1:18 AM, Larry Dwyer via Libc-alpha wrote:
> > How about the "control" side and the "terminal" side (of the paired
> > device files)?
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. As far as I'm concerned, that would
> also be an option worth considering.

I work on the illumos project and a few of us have been having a
(not yet public) discussion about this lately as well.  I think the
best one we could think of was:

    the "control" side for the result of posix_openpt()

    the "subordinate" side for the result of ptsname() and open(),
    "/dev/pts" still makes sense, etc

    we would rename our "/dev/ptmx" device file the "manager
    driver" rather than the "master"

We would strongly consider using the same shift as other projects,
but I think only if they actually make sense; e.g., the "terminal"
and "pseudoterminal" end doesn't really stand out as completely
clear.


Cheers.

-- 
Joshua M. Clulow
http://blog.sysmgr.org

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-05 11:21 Pseudoterminal terminology in POSIX Michael Kerrisk via Libc-alpha
2020-08-05 13:51 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
     [not found]   ` <20200805142049.GA17848@localhost>
2020-08-05 20:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
     [not found]     ` <CAP1RCkjrqKGJmh6f637D=yGuhev7ae5QJkMjv5a8iHo4X33NFw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <1d8c5e6e96fbdd47ce143a566b57db2c803d4898.camel@gnu.org>
2020-08-05 20:34         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
     [not found]         ` <21048.1596645536@jinx.noi.kre.to>
     [not found]           ` <CAH7i3LrNvBo3indixGyJgS2_4F9r3cd3kOiDgPK8m-ZXj1a0zg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <874bfe40-5f05-151d-42b3-482baacbf0b2@gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAH7i3LpXZxwaLQTY=XK8zM4jWYHSiy1feA6ZLE-mT-ZiJNak5A@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-11  8:31                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
2020-08-08 23:18 ` Larry Dwyer via Libc-alpha
2020-08-10 13:20   ` Joerg Schilling
2020-08-10 18:10     ` Zack Weinberg
2020-08-10 18:17       ` Samuel Thibault
2020-08-10 18:21         ` Samuel Thibault
2020-08-11  8:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
2020-08-10 13:58   ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11  8:31     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
2020-08-11 11:51       ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11 14:20         ` Michael Kerrisk via Libc-alpha
2020-08-12 14:37       ` Thor Lancelot Simon
2020-08-11  8:32   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
2020-08-11 17:29     ` Joshua M. Clulow via Libc-alpha [this message]
2020-08-12 13:19       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-08-18 16:10         ` Dave Martin
2020-08-18 16:44           ` enh via Libc-alpha
2020-08-11 11:17   ` Dirk Fieldhouse

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