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From: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	"xe-linux-external\(mailer list\)" <xe-linux-external@cisco.com>,
	Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Jeremy Stenglein \(jstengle\)" <jstengle@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] implement dlmopen hooks for gdb
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:37:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2l1vhkn.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b55d031f-29fc-8009-84eb-286914cbd12a@redhat.com> (Carlos O'Donell's message of "Tue, 22 Sep 2020 13:28:46 -0400")

* Carlos O'Donell:

> On 9/22/20 1:06 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha:
>> 
>>> Your next step would be to export the symbol via Versions at the current
>>> symbol node GLIBC_2.32 (soon to be GLIBC_2.33).
>> 
>> Can we create a new GLIBC_DEBUG symbol versions for symbols which are
>> not intended to be used for run-time linking?
>> 
>> The idea is that consumers will have deal with the absence of these
>> symbols anyway, so we just need one symbol version that does not depend
>> on the glibc version for this.  Dependency management considerations
>> (that apply to symbols with run-time linking) do not come into play here.
>
> I don't object to GLIBC_DEBUG, like GLIBC_PRIVATE it can be considered
> a transient ABI that is valid only for a major release?

No, unlike GLIBC_PRIVATE, you can assume that if a GLIBC_DEBUG symbol is
there (and perhaps has the documented size), it has the documented
semantics.  But you can't assume that it is present.

The semantics of GLIBC_PRIVATE symbols can change arbitrarily, even
between builds.

Thanks,
Florian
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-22 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-26 19:32 [RFC PATCH 0/3] implement dlmopen hooks for gdb Daniel Walker via Libc-alpha
2020-06-26 21:17 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-07-23 18:40   ` Daniel Walker (danielwa) via Libc-alpha
2020-07-23 21:20     ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-16 16:18       ` Daniel Walker (danielwa) via Libc-alpha
2020-09-17 12:52         ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-17 12:59           ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-09-17 13:53             ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-18 15:35               ` Daniel Walker (danielwa) via Libc-alpha
2020-09-18 15:40                 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-09-21 20:02                   ` Daniel Walker (danielwa) via Libc-alpha
2021-07-28 18:33                   ` Daniel Walker via Libc-alpha
2021-07-28 18:48                     ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2020-09-17 13:52           ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 17:06       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 17:28         ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 17:37           ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha [this message]
2020-09-22 17:59             ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 18:04               ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 18:41                 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 18:44                   ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 18:46                     ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-09-22 18:17               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-22 19:13                 ` Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha
2020-06-26 21:30 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-06-27  1:10   ` Daniel Walker (danielwa) via Libc-alpha
2020-07-02 13:54     ` Conan Huang (conhuang) via Libc-alpha

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