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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Add malloc micro benchmark
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:27:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <847c0d42-b957-dccc-8468-795885632717@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b06da97c-3336-4385-377f-ac2872e48b88@linaro.org>

On 01/05/2018 08:46 AM, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/01/2018 14:17, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On 01/05/2018 07:50 AM, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/01/2018 12:32, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>>>> On 01/04/2018 05:48 AM, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
>>>>> Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't use mallopt, please make it a tunable then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mallopt API already had 2 secret arena options which eventually became
>>>>>> so well used they were baked into the API and had to be made public.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately tunables are not exported so you can't use them outside of GLIBC:
>>>>>
>>>>> /build/glibc/benchtests/bench-malloc-simple.o: In function `bench':
>>>>> bench-malloc-simple.c:(.text+0x19c): undefined reference to `__tunable_set_val'
>>>>> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>>>>
>>>> Correct, we only have a env-var frontend right now, and the internal API is not
>>>> made accessible via GLIBC_PRIVATE.
>>>>
>>>> You have 3 options for tests:
>>>>
>>>> * Use the env vars to adjust test behaviour. Run the tests multiple times.
>>>> * Add a new C API frontend, very valuable, but more time consuming.
>>>> * Expose the existing internal C API via GLIBC_PRIVATE for testing, and throw
>>>>   it away later when we get a proper C API frontend.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do we want a C API to tied the malloc implementation to some tunables? My
>>> understanding is the tunable api idea is not really enforce retro-compability
>>> (where a C api would enforce it).
>>  
>> If we add a C API to the tunables, we would honour that API for tunables for
>> all time, but the tunables themselves would not be stable.
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> * get list of tunables supported
>> * get the default value for a tunable
>> * get the value of a tunable
>> * set the value of a tunable
>>
>> So you would use this API in the tests to get the tunable list, assert the
>> tcache tunable was accepted (or fail the test), and then set it to a special
>> value for the part of the test that needs it.
> 
> Right, this seems a reasonable approach (although I think out of the scope for
> this change).
 
That is up to Wilco to decide, but in general I agree that he need not take on
this work to get the current patch set merged, there are other solutions to the
need to tweak the settings. I think the env var and multiple test run approach
is going to be the simplest.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-05 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 13:51 [PATCH] Add malloc micro benchmark Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-01 16:13 ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-12-18 15:18   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-18 16:32     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-02 18:20       ` [PATCH v2] " Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-02 18:45         ` DJ Delorie
2018-01-03 12:12           ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-03 15:07             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-04 13:48               ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-01-04 16:37                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 14:32                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 15:50                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 16:17                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 16:46                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-01-05 17:27                         ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2018-01-05 14:33         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-05 16:28           ` Joseph Myers
2018-01-05 17:26             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 12:40               ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-28 14:11                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 14:16                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-28 16:16                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 20:17                       ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 16:46                     ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 17:01                       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2018-02-28 18:21                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-28 19:56                         ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-02-28 21:56                           ` DJ Delorie
2018-03-01 11:24                             ` Ondřej Bílka
2017-12-18 23:02     ` [PATCH] " DJ Delorie
2017-12-28 14:09       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2017-12-28 19:01         ` DJ Delorie

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